Flow Master 0 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 What would be a good red dot type scope for my stock 308. I will be hunting with it but no shoots past 100yds. And I am on a budget. Thanks, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgillaspy 24 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I know this will sound very un-American, but look at the Chinese knockoffs of the Aimpoint, EOTech and Doctor Red Dot scopes. I ordered a $40.00 Aimpoint knock-off a couple days ago off of eBay. It should be here in a couple of weeks (coming from China). I'll let you know about the quality when it gets here. Remember, you get what you pay for, so don't expect Aimpoint or EOTech quality from a knock-off, but for a cheap trial setup, they shouldn't be that bad. If you like it, then you can start looking for a good, used, real one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daytongary 0 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Look at the BSA one for around $50. You can change to 7 different brightness and 4 different size settings of dot. I hit a 3" plastic ball every shot with mine at 50 yards with my Saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Since you didn't elaborate on the size of your budget: http://stores.freedomoptics.com/Detail.bok?no=23 A bit more than some of the cheaper units, but well made and you also don't have to buy a separate mount. It just slides onto the side rail of your S308 and you are ready to zero it and go hunting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigDaddyScopes 0 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 EOTechs are the best, but pricey. For under 100 yards, I few different options in my store. www.bigdaddyscopes.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Makarovnut 0 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 How about a halo / reflex sight? No magnification and free of parallax. I bought a GuideGear (BSA) model from www.sportsmansguide.com for less than $50 and like it. BSA tells me it has a battery life of 4hrs continuous use but I think its more than that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
texlurch 0 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 How cheap is cheap? You can get a Kobra with mount for under $200, and they hold up to anything you'll put it thru. I picked up an Aimpoint clone, but the jury is still out as to how it holds up with the 308 recoil. I have it on my G3, so it won't get beat as bad as a lot of 308's would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
U.S. Pratorean 1,234 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 What would be a good red dot type scope for my stock 308. I will be hunting with it but no shoots past 100yds. And I am on a budget.Thanks, For this application the russian PK-AS with the off set AK mount is the best for the money. The glass is tip top and it has a range finder AND if your, battery fails it still works with the BLACK dot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SEG21 0 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Don't know what your budget is, but I've read good things about this scope. Millet DMS Scope 30mm Tube 1-4x 24mm Illuminated Circle Dot Reticle Matte Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 What would be a good red dot type scope for my stock 308. I will be hunting with it but no shoots past 100yds. And I am on a budget.Thanks, For this application the russian PK-AS with the off set AK mount is the best for the money. The glass is tip top and it has a range finder AND if your, battery fails it still works with the BLACK dot. It does not have a range finder. I bought one to give to my brother for Christmas last year, and was disappointed when it arrived, that there was no range finding function. When I asked the place I bought it (Kalinka) how to work the range finder, they told me there wasn't one, and offered to take it back and refund my money when I threw up the bullshit flag, since the description on their site says it has a rangefinder. Ended up giving it to my brother as a gift anyway since it was still a nice sight and worth the money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
U.S. Pratorean 1,234 Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 What would be a good red dot type scope for my stock 308. I will be hunting with it but no shoots past 100yds. And I am on a budget.Thanks, For this application the russian PK-AS with the off set AK mount is the best for the money. The glass is tip top and it has a range finder AND if your, battery fails it still works with the BLACK dot. It does not have a range finder. I bought one to give to my brother for Christmas last year, and was disappointed when it arrived, that there was no range finding function. When I asked the place I bought it (Kalinka) how to work the range finder, they told me there wasn't one, and offered to take it back and refund my money when I threw up the bullshit flag, since the description on their site says it has a rangefinder. Ended up giving it to my brother as a gift anyway since it was still a nice sight and worth the money. Hmmm, are you sure you are not thinking about a Kobra red dot? The PK-AS does have a range finder. The dot is a 1 minute dot WITHIN a 75 minute elliptical ring. The ring is your range finder. A 1.7 meter target or something 5'8" tall fits into that ring a 200m and half that at 400m. The width can also be measured but I cannot remember the exact numbers. I can get them if you like. It is not like a scale rangefinder but was devised for quick target acqusition and rangeing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 M<y old eyes don't work so well with iron sights anymore, so I am going to go with a big assed scope 4X9x44 or 50, and a green laser. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Hmmm, are you sure you are not thinking about a Kobra red dot? The PK-AS does have a range finder. The dot is a 1 minute dot WITHIN a 75 minute elliptical ring. The ring is your range finder. A 1.7 meter target or something 5'8" tall fits into that ring a 200m and half that at 400m. The width can also be measured but I cannot remember the exact numbers. I can get them if you like. It is not like a scale rangefinder but was devised for quick target acqusition and rangeing. I think calling a reticle of known size a "range finder" is a bit of an exaggeration. Range estimation aid, maybe. And I didn't even get that much of an explanation when I wrote them to ask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fossten 1 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Mueller scopes are, for the money, the best around. Only $115.00. http://www.gunkings.com/product_info.php?c...products_id=297 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keyser223 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Mueller scopes are, for the money, the best around. Only $115.00. http://www.gunkings.com/product_info.php?c...products_id=297 I second Mueller scopes. I've got the new IR Mildot x50 model, but I haven't put it on the .308 yet as I'm afraid the flying brass will bang the crap out of it. Probably going to fashion a deflector just in case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fossten 1 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Mueller scopes are, for the money, the best around. Only $115.00. http://www.gunkings.com/product_info.php?c...products_id=297 I second Mueller scopes. I've got the new IR Mildot x50 model, but I haven't put it on the .308 yet as I'm afraid the flying brass will bang the crap out of it. Probably going to fashion a deflector just in case. If you do manage to fashion a deflector, go ahead and make 2 and I'll buy one from you. I'm a lefty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 (edited) Small print reads "not suitable for heavy magnum callibers". Most of us gun monkies need a scope rated "guarenteed ape proof. Use as either a hammer or anvil is not recommended, however unless scope is used as such in a commercial enterprise we generally honor our 100% free replacement poilcy.". Edited July 31, 2007 by G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fossten 1 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Small print reads "not suitable for heavy magnum callibers". Most of us gun monkies need a scope rated "guarenteed ape proof. Use as either a hammer or anvil is not recommended, however unless scope is used as such in a commercial enterprise we generally honor our 100% free replacement poilcy.". [insert newb disclaimer here] Is .308 a MAGNUM caliber? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keyser223 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Small print reads "not suitable for heavy magnum callibers". Most of us gun monkies need a scope rated "guarenteed ape proof. Use as either a hammer or anvil is not recommended, however unless scope is used as such in a commercial enterprise we generally honor our 100% free replacement poilcy.". Was that in reference to the Mueller scopes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fossten 1 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Small print reads "not suitable for heavy magnum callibers". Most of us gun monkies need a scope rated "guarenteed ape proof. Use as either a hammer or anvil is not recommended, however unless scope is used as such in a commercial enterprise we generally honor our 100% free replacement poilcy.". Was that in reference to the Mueller scopes? Yes it was. Still waiting to hear whether or not a .308 is considered a MAGNUM caliber. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keyser223 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Small print reads "not suitable for heavy magnum callibers". Most of us gun monkies need a scope rated "guarenteed ape proof. Use as either a hammer or anvil is not recommended, however unless scope is used as such in a commercial enterprise we generally honor our 100% free replacement poilcy.". Was that in reference to the Mueller scopes? Yes it was. Still waiting to hear whether or not a .308 is considered a MAGNUM caliber. Don't know about his opinion, but it's not in mine. Heck it's held it's zero on a .308 bolt gun. I think that's more recoil than the S-308 has. I didn't find any fine print on the Mueller website or in my manual that said anything about magnum calibers either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fossten 1 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Small print reads "not suitable for heavy magnum callibers". Most of us gun monkies need a scope rated "guarenteed ape proof. Use as either a hammer or anvil is not recommended, however unless scope is used as such in a commercial enterprise we generally honor our 100% free replacement poilcy.". Was that in reference to the Mueller scopes? Yes it was. Still waiting to hear whether or not a .308 is considered a MAGNUM caliber. Don't know about his opinion, but it's not in mine. Heck it's held it's zero on a .308 bolt gun. I think that's more recoil than the S-308 has. I didn't find any fine print on the Mueller website or in my manual that said anything about magnum calibers either. It says it on the gunkings.com website. But if you say yours holds its zero, that's good enough for me. I'm thinking about pulling mine off my 10/22 Ruger and putting it on the 308. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keyser223 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Small print reads "not suitable for heavy magnum callibers". Most of us gun monkies need a scope rated "guarenteed ape proof. Use as either a hammer or anvil is not recommended, however unless scope is used as such in a commercial enterprise we generally honor our 100% free replacement poilcy.". Was that in reference to the Mueller scopes? Yes it was. Still waiting to hear whether or not a .308 is considered a MAGNUM caliber. Don't know about his opinion, but it's not in mine. Heck it's held it's zero on a .308 bolt gun. I think that's more recoil than the S-308 has. I didn't find any fine print on the Mueller website or in my manual that said anything about magnum calibers either. It says it on the gunkings.com website. But if you say yours holds its zero, that's good enough for me. I'm thinking about pulling mine off my 10/22 Ruger and putting it on the 308. I'm still not finding the fine print on gunkings. I've got the 4-16x50 ao IR mildot model. They've also tested it on snipercentral against leopolds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fossten 1 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 (edited) Edited July 31, 2007 by fossten Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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