skyaer 0 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I am just wondering if dry firing have potential damage to saiga 7.62X39. Any response will be appreciated! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Not in any way, shape or form. They are designed to be dry fired as part of their manual of arms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 in my manual, on page 16, 2.1.3 it says TO PREVENT STRIKER FROM BREAKAGE, NEVER MAKE DRY SHOTS, IF NO NEED BE. lol, russians Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g1rock 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) Metal hammering on metal only causes mushrooms. Make your own dry fire round by using a fired inert empty casing , popping out the primer and filling the primer cavity up with form-a-gasket, or any silicon would work. Then you could install a FMJ bullet in the casing at that point if you have a press. drill holes in the side for identification, file smooth and you're done. Edited November 12, 2008 by g1rock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blazo666 0 Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 some times i like to load up my clip and shoot at santa clause while he's handin out hersey bars to cancer kids with turkeys flyin his sleigh . . im kiddin im real drunk (im not shootin) but i love a good cancersantajoke but uh what were we talkin bout . . .oh yeah i dry fire at my 7.62 . . .im kinda force to when clip emptys but it just seems to hold up and be rugged as an ak's supposed to be oh yeah wait a second . . . . did russia invent the ak . . .oh so its normal that my RUSSIAN AK IS SOLID as a muhfukka accurate and i bury it in mud dailly and i dry fire it at my mailman oh . . . . thats expectide Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kelevra 1 Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 some times i like to load up my clip and shoot at santa clause while he's handin out hersey bars to cancer kids with turkeys flyin his sleigh . . im kiddin im real drunk (im not shootin) but i love a good cancersantajoke but uh what were we talkin bout . . .oh yeah i dry fire at my 7.62 . . .im kinda force to when clip emptys but it just seems to hold up and be rugged as an ak's supposed to be oh yeah wait a second . . . . did russia invent the ak . . .oh so its normal that my RUSSIAN AK IS SOLID as a muhfukka accurate and i bury it in mud dailly and i dry fire it at my mailman oh . . . . thats expectide hahahaha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Hey what happens with a FA Russian AK set on rock and roll and you dump a mag? It goes click when empty if you do not reload... not sure if that is bad or good, you just don't want that to happen when there is someone shooting back at you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 some times i like to load up my clip and shoot at santa clause while he's handin out hersey bars to cancer kids with turkeys flyin his sleigh . . im kiddin im real drunk (im not shootin) but i love a good cancersantajoke but uh what were we talkin bout . . .oh yeah i dry fire at my 7.62 . . .im kinda force to when clip emptys but it just seems to hold up and be rugged as an ak's supposed to be oh yeah wait a second . . . . did russia invent the ak . . .oh so its normal that my RUSSIAN AK IS SOLID as a muhfukka accurate and i bury it in mud dailly and i dry fire it at my mailman oh . . . . thats expectide There is much sig line material in this post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Mr shasty will not be "freely posting" for the next three days... his mod preview has been turned on... As funny as some of that may be, I dont think his FIRST TWO POSTS Are very appropriate. Especially his drunken rant in another section. Which by the way was DELETED... Maybe when he sobers up he will be more tactful in his humor! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Mr shasty will not be "freely posting" for the next three days... his mod preview has been turned on... As funny as some of that may be, I dont think his FIRST TWO POSTS Are very appropriate. Especially his drunken rant in another section. Which by the way was DELETED... Maybe when he sobers up he will be more tactful in his humor! That may have been him in this video then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7-Q-PkeO94&NR=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I think maybe so... Thats some funny shit there!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wlnt 2 Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 I am just wondering if dry firing have potential damage to saiga 7.62X39. Any response will be appreciated! Call me old fashioned (just DON'T CALL ME OLD) but I believe in snap caps. If you are not familiar with snap caps they can be made (as g1rock posted above) or purchased. The purchased type usually have a spring backed plastic primer for the firing pin to hit. Purchased or made snap caps are also good for testing magazine feeding, bullet guides, etc. when you really shouldn't be using live rounds but you need a dummy round (bullet and case). I am sure that Nalioth is probably right but you can see my point about how they come in handy for other things too. louielouie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agias 0 Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) Not sure about the value of this information buti remember back in the day there was a border patrol and police demo in our school, after which they dumped their arsenal in one of the classrooms so we can handle them, one of the border patrol guys kept asking the kids to put the AK-63D down because they kept dry firing it and he was afraid they'd break the firing pin. Not sure wether he was right or just overly cautious, but we never found out wether this would really break the pin because later in the day the other BP guy told the first one that all the guns have been stripped of their firing pins. That was the day when i truely fell in love with AKs. Edited November 29, 2008 by Agias Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Not sure about the value of this information buti remember back in the day there was a border patrol and police demo in our school, after which they dumped their arsenal in one of the classrooms so we can handle them, one of the border patrol guys kept asking the kids to put the AK-63D down because they kept dry firing it and he was afraid they'd break the firing pin. Not sure wether he was right or just overly cautious, but we never found out wether this would really break the pin because later in the day the other BP guy told the first one that all the guns have been stripped of their firing pins. That was the day when i truely fell in love with AKs. Old hands usually learn one thing and apply it to every gun they get after that. Modern military firearms are designed to be dry fired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WardenWolf 6 Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 in my manual, on page 16, 2.1.3 it says TO PREVENT STRIKER FROM BREAKAGE, NEVER MAKE DRY SHOTS, IF NO NEED BE. lol, russians I call it Engrush. =) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blazo666 0 Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Kelevra Posted Yesterday, 02:28 AM QUOTE (shastymcbustins @ Nov 28 2008, 02:43 AM) some times i like to load up my clip and shoot at santa clause while he's handin out hersey bars to cancer kids with turkeys flyin his sleigh . . im kiddin im real drunk (im not shootin) but i love a good cancersantajoke but uh what were we talkin bout . . .oh yeah i dry fire at my 7.62 . . .im kinda force to when clip emptys but it just seems to hold up and be rugged as an ak's supposed to be oh yeah wait a second . . . . did russia invent the ak . . .oh so its normal that my RUSSIAN AK IS SOLID as a muhfukka accurate and i bury it in mud dailly and i dry fire it at my mailman oh . . . . thats expectide hahahaha at least i got a laugh outta kelevra . . .and i did comment on the topic . . .but uh yeah sorry so drunk and uh . . thats not me with a weedwhacker duct taped to my ak . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wlnt 2 Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 "...Old hands usually learn one thing and apply it to every gun they get after that." I warned you Nalioth, I warned you fair and square, "Call me old fashioned (just DON'T CALL ME OLD) " HERE YOU GO, FANNING THE FLAMES AND TRYING TO THROW ABSORBINE JUNIOR ON THE FIRE'. WELL I FOR ONE HAVE HAD IT. EVERYONE 55 AND OLDER UNITE TO ..... I forgot was I was going to say. Nalioth, Merry Christmas, louielouie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mstranglr 9 Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 "its normal that my RUSSIAN AK IS SOLID as a muhfukka accurate and i bury it in mud dailly and i dry fire it at my mailman" HOLY STITE THATS CLASSIC!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tab1324 0 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 if it breaks when you dry fire it, then it isn't worth crap. Dry firing is a great way to increase accuracy by getting the feel for the trigger pull, creep, break, etc.. I wouldn't worry about it in a Saiga or any modern firearm for that matter. I have a CZ52 pistol which has a reputation for breaking firing pins when dry fired because its made of cast material. Later, someone got smarter and is manufacturing machined pins and those have a very good track record. Tom B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agias 0 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Not sure about the value of this information buti remember back in the day there was a border patrol and police demo in our school, after which they dumped their arsenal in one of the classrooms so we can handle them, one of the border patrol guys kept asking the kids to put the AK-63D down because they kept dry firing it and he was afraid they'd break the firing pin. Not sure wether he was right or just overly cautious, but we never found out wether this would really break the pin because later in the day the other BP guy told the first one that all the guns have been stripped of their firing pins. That was the day when i truely fell in love with AKs. Old hands usually learn one thing and apply it to every gun they get after that. Iii dunno, he didn't really look old enugh to have served with anything from before the AK era. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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