Ruffian72 548 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Just been wondering, where in USA will the free zones be when Government becomes a police state. Every tyrannical Government has been afraid to go into certain areas because the whole population would fight. Where the population would rather die than submit to slavery. That's why/how the west was settled. The right to be left alone, form own communities when government got to overbearing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hallboss 1 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) Surly offered his place and said he would provide the beer. Edited January 10, 2009 by hallboss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
acercanto 6 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I'm betting on places in Texas, and lots of places up and down the Appalachians. Have gas and guns, will travel. Acer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janusthephoenix 24 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html Most of the red colored areas are a good bet. Honestly, I think the gov't will go broke and implode before they evolve to a police state. The ones to worry about will be the hardened gangs and hordes of amateur criminals. There will be lots... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 That map is misleading. Truth is it wont be state vs. state. It'll be country vs. cities. Free people vs. media zombies. The farther you leave from MOST major metro areas the better you'll be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOPMOD 254 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html Most of the red colored areas are a good bet. Honestly, I think the gov't will go broke and implode before they evolve to a police state. The ones to worry about will be the hardened gangs and hordes of amateur criminals. There will be lots... +1 the governent took more than a week and 10,000 cops and troops to lock down NOLA with when it was almost deserted,why does everyone think they will be able to dominate when he whole country is in shambles? They will focus on big $$$ areas and let everything else go fallow locking down interstate travel to keep the unregistered ruffians from preying upon their hollow remaining vestiges of civilization 70% of Oklahoma's population fled to the coast looking for work and food during the great depression and Oklahoma was a deserted lawless place for quite some time and I imagine it will be again soon enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saigaczech 9 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html Most of the red colored areas are a good bet. Honestly, I think the gov't will go broke and implode before they evolve to a police state. The ones to worry about will be the hardened gangs and hordes of amateur criminals. There will be lots... +1 the governent took more than a week and 10,000 cops and troops to lock down NOLA with when it was almost deserted,why does everyone think they will be able to dominate when he whole country is in shambles? They will focus on big $$$ areas and let everything else go fallow locking down interstate travel to keep the unregistered ruffians from preying upon their hollow remaining vestiges of civilization 70% of Oklahoma's population fled to the coast looking for work and food during the great depression and Oklahoma was a deserted lawless place for quite some time and I imagine it will be again soon enough. But.... I don't like tornados and building a hardened shelter is too time consuming. WAAAAHHHH!!! I agree though. I think Alaska would be OK except that the govt. will be interested in oil, gas, trees, gold, ____________ (fill in the blank). The Dakotas and Montana may be decent too though. The funny thing is my parents brought me here 38 years ago to escape the big red brother. Now it seems he has started a franchise here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arcturus74 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 The Republic of Texas of course. Though you might be better off in say, the Panhandle or East Texas as opposed to around Houston or El Paso.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOPMOD 254 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 The Republic of Texas of course. Though you might be better off in say, the Panhandle or East Texas as opposed to around Houston or El Paso.... You guys will be at war with Mexico when the FedGov fold up(which I might be up for if the pay is good;) but Texas is the most self sufficient state in the Union so who knows it might work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arcturus74 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 You guys will be at war with Mexico when the FedGov fold up(which I might be up for if the pay is good;) but Texas is the most self sufficient state in the Union so who knows it might work? Well, the Panhandle is quite a ways from the Border....and if things ever got so bad we were fighting, I'm not sure we'd have to worry about Mexico. But if they wanted to try their luck again, they're welcome to. Big fallacy of the Texas Revolution was that it was the white settlers versus the Mexicans. Many many "Texicans" such as Juan Sequin sided with their fellow Texans against Santa Anna and his thugs. Though some illegals might be pro Mexico, I'd have to believe any hispanic with half a brain would rather fight for and protect Texas and their current way of life, rather then return to a system of government they had left behind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saigaczech 9 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 You guys will be at war with Mexico when the FedGov fold up(which I might be up for if the pay is good;) but Texas is the most self sufficient state in the Union so who knows it might work? Well, the Panhandle is quite a ways from the Border....and if things ever got so bad we were fighting, I'm not sure we'd have to worry about Mexico. But if they wanted to try their luck again, they're welcome to. Big fallacy of the Texas Revolution was that it was the white settlers versus the Mexicans. Many many "Texicans" such as Juan Sequin sided with their fellow Texans against Santa Anna and his thugs. Though some illegals might be pro Mexico, I'd have to believe any hispanic with half a brain would rather fight for and protect Texas and their current way of life, rather then return to a system of government they had left behind. Yeah, but if their left behind govt did not have to worry about a broken down govt here they might still try and take over. I agree with you for the most part though. Been through Texas a couple of times, including the pan handle, nice people there for the most part. I would miss The Big Texan in Amarillo, I know its a tourist trap but you can't complain about 72 oz steaks. Texas, where a 24 oz steak is the lady's cut. Mmmm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOPMOD 254 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 The funny thing is my parents brought me here 38 years ago to escape the big red brother. Now it seems he has started a franchise here. So were you in Prague when the Soviets came to "liberate" you? They might come a "liberate" us too if our government collapses completely but with 300,000 Chicom Naval Infantry already living in Panama they might not be the only "Liberators" we see,LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saigaczech 9 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 The funny thing is my parents brought me here 38 years ago to escape the big red brother. Now it seems he has started a franchise here. So were you in Prague when the Soviets came to "liberate" you? They might come a "liberate" us too if our government collapses completely but with 300,000 Chicom Naval Infantry already living in Panama they might not be the only "Liberators" we see,LOL Yeah, saw the whole thing in '68. Was five when the tanks rolled in. Had a fear of helicopters until my teens (see Full Metal Jacket to learn why). I love it when people say SovCom hardware is junk, most of them were not down range from it. Nothing builds respect faster then being shot at. Yeah, it will either be a Chicom or the Russians wanting Alaska back and anything else they can grab. Either way we are SOL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cliffevans 2 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I love my Texas... and it Houston where I call home. I think America will have many more Years of Economic Destruction before we see any Police STATE or hoards of Gang bangers... I mean .. in Houston we had allot of Katrina..trash move in a start crime but as you can see industrious Texans fought back.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 The Republic of Texas of course. Though you might be better off in say, the Panhandle or East Texas as opposed to around Houston or El Paso.... You guys will be at war with Mexico when the FedGov fold up(which I might be up for if the pay is good;) but Texas is the most self sufficient state in the Union so who knows it might work? That will be a short war, my money is on Texas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffian72 548 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 We all know there are states know that don't care about the individual. Just keep the masses in control and keep the cronies in power. A neighbor see's your gun, you get raided and put in prison, while whole areas are lawless and the population is in fear. Just that now you can move out. Just drives certain politians (Those know in power) crazy not to enforce this failed policy everywhere. Turned down better employment in these states. All Liberal/Democrat controled areas know have high crime/taxes/unemployment. Masses stuck/indoctrinated on Government control of their lives to exsist. Political corruption and crimes against the people are OK, as long as those in power promise to take care of them. Just look at New York City raising taxes/fees on everything, yet not cutting back on bogus programs or corrupt political/union payouts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nsa400 11 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 +1 Bean when shtf we will get out of town fast.lots of places to go to here in nv. I say let the gangs and all other zombies kill each other, then reclaim civilization. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Oklahoma, where I live will be just fine. Tornados are not really all that much of a problem. I lived here my whole life and never got closer than a couple miles from one. We do have good water, soil, game, mild winters and close knit farming communities. I crack up at the thought of gang bangers coming to the town I live in. This is one place where I don't worry about police problems either. Everybody keeps a good eye out for each other. Great schools. These sorts of places will be the ones they avoid. I live in western Oklahoma. I travel a lot but my home base will most likely be here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baptistjihad 0 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 North Georgia. Good water and moderate climate. Will just keep the long gun pointed southeast..... Atlanta. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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