yakdung 2,926 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 ATF Hunting for guns, a house at a time in Houston: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6505651.html Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Not the whole story at all. The NRA has a story on this from last week (and it's not just Houston). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 that is so informative..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Well, let me help you guys out. "Really simple syndication" is built into most browsers these days and has lots of dedicated clients for it. You add the feeds of the sources you are interested in, and never miss another item of interest. . . Information on 'really simple syndication': Really simple syndication explained - wikipedia.org RSS clients - wikipedia.org Feeds of interest to gun owners: NRA-ILA RSS feed Gun Owners of America RSS feed Jews for the preservation of firearms ownership - "Talkin' to America" RSS feed Jews for the preservation of firearms ownership - "Government, keep out!" RSS feed One of the other gun forums I'm on has it set up where these are posted on the forum when they are published by their authors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I'm aware of RSS feeds. This story was posted due to the regional Houston content. Why do you feel the need to instruct folks on the technical jargon just curious? Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I'm aware of RSS feeds. This story was posted due to the regional Houston content. Why do you feel the need to instruct folks on the technical jargon just curious? Yakdung Well, it appears that not everyone knows what RSS is (or utilizes it). I'm sure that if more people knew about it, more would use it to their advantage. RSS in Firefox: A Complete Guide As to the content, the news about the revenuers visiting folks who live in the southwest who've had multiple handguns purchase forms sent in has been reported for a few weeks now. News report 1 News report 2 The Chronicle is using this as another swipe at guns (and their owners), but it's not news (if you've been paying attention). Quite a few Houstonians have received visits from the revenuers over the past few weeks in this matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Sorry. I know what it is and have no need for it. Thanks anyway, Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Yakdung, good post! If they outlaw guns, guess what else will be coming from south of the border instead of the other way around? BTW, I have a low-tech RSS Feed. It's called hitting my Favorites menu or Google. Information then comes to me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Well, if they went bothering a pastor for buying two handguns, they should be knocking on my door real soon!!! But seriously, do they search the house, or just ask to see certain (the "ones" in question) guns to be sure you actually have them? I have heard of this from multiple sources, but no more details . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Well, if they went bothering a pastor for buying two handguns, they should be knocking on my door real soon!!! But seriously, do they search the house, or just ask to see certain (the "ones" in question) guns to be sure you actually have them? I have heard of this from multiple sources, but no more details . . . Read the "news report" links in post #6, and you'll get your details. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I read this sometime ago and thought I would share this as well: http://www.gunowners.com/batf.htm Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well, if they went bothering a pastor for buying two handguns, they should be knocking on my door real soon!!! But seriously, do they search the house, or just ask to see certain (the "ones" in question) guns to be sure you actually have them? I have heard of this from multiple sources, but no more details . . . Read the "news report" links in post #6, and you'll get your details. Yeah. Thanks Nalioth. I read those. And like I said, I want(ed) more details. People argue to damn much on THR so, while that can be a good site for information, there's too much bullshittin' going on around there. I don't get on the internet to argue (or read arguments), I get on here to learn. Sooooo I called my FFL dealer and found out a little more . . . Who has recently been payed a visit by them (BATFE) . . . For example, he said they were specifically looking for large/multiple purchases of specific models of firearms. Not "just any" multiple purchases. The four models he told me were 1911-style handguns, Bushmaster rifles, Beretta 92's and Taurus 92's. So, since I haven't bought any of those in the last 4-5 years, I really don't expect the BATFE to come knocking. Of course, that doesn't mean they can't/won't. I read this sometime ago and thought I would share this as well: http://www.gunowners.com/batf.htm Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Good stuff here folks, thank you all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I've posted this one before and do so again for those that missed it the first time around. It is 46 minutes and well worth the time invested. Scroll down the page the video is about half way down. http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/faculty_staff/duane.cfm Enjoy, Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoopster50 0 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I've posted this one before and do so again for those that missed it the first time around. It is 46 minutes and well worth the time invested. Scroll down the page the video is about half way down. http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/faculty_staff/duane.cfm Enjoy, Yakdung That's an excellent video, thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 For example, he said they were specifically looking for large/multiple purchases of specific models of firearms. Not "just any" multiple purchases. The four models he told me were 1911-style handguns, Bushmaster rifles, Beretta 92's and Taurus 92's. That's interesting. I wonder what supposed intel they got...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 For example, he said they were specifically looking for large/multiple purchases of specific models of firearms. Not "just any" multiple purchases. The four models he told me were 1911-style handguns, Bushmaster rifles, Beretta 92's and Taurus 92's. That's interesting. I wonder what supposed intel they got...... "Multiple handgun purchase forms" Have no idea where they're getting the rifle leads, but if it's dealer records, it's illegal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Houston Chronicle said they are reviewing the firearm dealers records in person. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Houston Chronicle said they are reviewing the firearm dealers records in person. Which is illegal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Legal/illegal they do not care. The law in their mind is whatever they can get away with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) For example, he said they were specifically looking for large/multiple purchases of specific models of firearms. Not "just any" multiple purchases. The four models he told me were 1911-style handguns, Bushmaster rifles, Beretta 92's and Taurus 92's. That's interesting. I wonder what supposed intel they got...... I don't KNOW, but I would guess it would have to do with the style of arms recovered in Mexico. Those making a "pattern" that the BATFE is looking for. For example, he said they were specifically looking for large/multiple purchases of specific models of firearms. Not "just any" multiple purchases. The four models he told me were 1911-style handguns, Bushmaster rifles, Beretta 92's and Taurus 92's. That's interesting. I wonder what supposed intel they got...... "Multiple handgun purchase forms" Have no idea where they're getting the rifle leads, but if it's dealer records, it's illegal. First of all, no, not "Multiple handgun purchase forms." Sorry. They were "just" reviewing this firearm dealers records in person. Second, really? ILLEGAL?!?!?!? (hands on cheeks like Macaulay Culkin in Home Alone) I'm pretty damned sure the BATFE operates with the same mind-set Richard "Tricky Dick" Nixon did, "When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal . . ." So, if the BATFE does it, that means it's not illegal. At least not in their eyes . . . Houston Chronicle said they are reviewing the firearm dealers records in person. Which is illegal. ILLEGAL?!?!?!? See above statement . . . Legal/illegal they do not care. The law in their mind is whatever they can get away with. Ding! Ding! Ding! You got it . . . . . . It's all in the interest of "national security!" Edited July 3, 2009 by Raoul_Duke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Legal/illegal they do not care. The law in their mind is whatever they can get away with. Badges????? We don't need no stinking badges, We're the federalies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termite 463 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Got a call about 4 weeks ago from big brother asking me about purchases I made from a dealer, some dating back about 10 months, everything they asked me about I had, except for 1 rifle that they claimed they had no serial # on. Only manufacturer name and model, but no serial #. I explained to the lady that YES, I DID own that model gun, but DID NOT purchase it from the dealer in question, and told her where I purchased it and have the sales slip for it. Why would they be calling me to inquire as to my purchases, she even asked me about the one, and I quote " Do you remember the firearm that you purchased on Halloween", I politely told her, I don't remember, but if you'd like to give me a make or model, I'll help you, she dropped a"clue", Oh yeh, that was the Ruger 10/22 charger, "well what about this Cobra firearm", well mam, that's a 9mm 2 shot daringer that I bought for shits and giggles, "OH OK thank you", and thank you mam, if I can help you any further, please feel free to contact me. Is it gettting so bad that they will be doing an inventory of anything you own???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krusader 1 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Just curious, why do you think people don't fight back, do you think they hold this life to dear, to precious of a thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lakedweller 10 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I'm not talking ........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Got a call about 4 weeks ago from big brother asking me about purchases I made from a dealer, some dating back about 10 months, everything they asked me about I had, except for 1 rifle that they claimed they had no serial # on. Only manufacturer name and model, but no serial #. I explained to the lady that YES, I DID own that model gun, but DID NOT purchase it from the dealer in question, and told her where I purchased it and have the sales slip for it. Why would they be calling me to inquire as to my purchases, she even asked me about the one, and I quote " Do you remember the firearm that you purchased on Halloween", I politely told her, I don't remember, but if you'd like to give me a make or model, I'll help you, she dropped a"clue", Oh yeh, that was the Ruger 10/22 charger, "well what about this Cobra firearm", well mam, that's a 9mm 2 shot daringer that I bought for shits and giggles, "OH OK thank you", and thank you mam, if I can help you any further, please feel free to contact me.Is it gettting so bad that they will be doing an inventory of anything you own???? They will be if people keep volunteering to do one for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termite 463 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 So tell me Rev, what would have been a good response to this lady from the BATF. I mean should I have told her if she wants to know what I have, get a warrant, and then wait to have them come visit to drink coffee? I ain't got nothing to hide and if asked if I own this or that weapon, I will answer the question as asked to me, no more, no less. But the questions where NOT about ALL the guns that I purchased from him, only specific ones???????????????? and no, they weren't all "evil guns, but a CZ bolt action, a Ruger Charger and a 9mm deringer, give me a break. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Some of the agents that are going around to different manufacturers and such are REAL morons! I really expected better of them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fasdfs 5 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Celebrate Independence Day by watching this video and never talking to any law enforcement officer who's trying to get up in your grill when you've done nothing wrong. If you're actually guilty of violating firearms laws, knock that crap off! You make the rest of us look bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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