davidvh86 0 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Any ideas on howto adjust chaos rear h&k style sight for elevation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaniel 7 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 From what I hear (but don't know for sure as I don't own one), there is no way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erwos 12 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Correct. Chaos sights are not adjustable for elevation unless you're willing to file the front post to do so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daughertym 15 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Good question! I sent an email to Chaos asking this question after purchasing my upper rail and sights from Chaos. I never got an answer back. I observed that the 2-4 apertures vary in height and tried to see where they would group with slugs at various ranges out to 100yds, but found that the rounds were impacting 2-3 feet high, using Federal LE low recoil. Don't get me wrong, I do love my Chaos sights, but was disappointed that there were no specs for the other apertures for a specific round. If anyone comes up with a round that works with the sights, let us know! Until then, I'll be looking to put on a red dot when I can afford it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vitamink 90 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 if someone wishes to sell me their rear sight i'll take it off your hands Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 This is what I plan on using. http://www.cncguns.com/forum/index.php?topic=64.0 http://centurionarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=115&Itemid=137 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OBITUARY 12 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I'm glad someone posted this I would have found out the hard way . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) For those who don't know, on H&K iron sights: The "1" notch is meant for up to 100 m, the "2" aperture is meant for 200 m, the "3" for 300, and the "4" for 400.... but of course these "presets" are meant for rifle, not shotgun. It is too bad that the Chaos H&K style rear drum is not adjustable for elevation. Actual H&K rear drums are. Edited May 12, 2011 by post-apocalyptic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 For those who don't know, on H&K iron sights: The "1" notch is meant for up to 100 yrds, the "2" aperture is meant for 200 yrds, the "3" for 300, and the "4" for 400.... but of course these "presets" are meant for rifle, not shotgun. It is too bad that the Chaos H&K style rear drum is not adjustable for elevation. Actual H&K rear drums are. I know you meant "meters" not ":yards". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Yeah, yeah.. meters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
srupp23 2 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I was wondering the same thing..... So basically if your groups are low you can file the front sight post down to bring the shot group up. What about left to right adjustments? Have not install the quad rail yet gonna break it out tonight and examine further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I've handled and still own several HK type weapons. In my opinion, and again, this is just my opinion. You should use a rear drum from and MP5, like this one. http://www.robertrtg.com/pofmp5rearsight.html I personaly can see no good reason to mount a rifle drum rear sight on a shotgun, unless maybe for a slug gun? You could also use a castle rear sight, like I use on my "k" gun. http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/MP5K-Rear-Sight-Genuine-HK-German-149p1235.htm Again, this is just my opinion. Might not be yours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
srupp23 2 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I've handled and still own several HK type weapons. In my opinion, and again, this is just my opinion. You should use a rear drum from and MP5, like this one. http://www.robertrtg...5rearsight.html I personaly can see no good reason to mount a rifle drum rear sight on a shotgun, unless maybe for a slug gun? You could also use a castle rear sight, like I use on my "k" gun. http://www.hkparts.n...an-149p1235.htm Again, this is just my opinion. Might not be yours. I have not handled an MP5 but can see your point. The sights are removable from the chaos rail. What would be a better option for a rear sight for a saiga shot gun? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I've handled and still own several HK type weapons. In my opinion, and again, this is just my opinion. You should use a rear drum from and MP5, like this one. http://www.robertrtg...5rearsight.html I personaly can see no good reason to mount a rifle drum rear sight on a shotgun, unless maybe for a slug gun? You could also use a castle rear sight, like I use on my "k" gun. http://www.hkparts.n...an-149p1235.htm Again, this is just my opinion. Might not be yours. I have not handled an MP5 but can see your point. The sights are removable from the chaos rail. What would be a better option for a rear sight for a saiga shot gun? I'll have to let some of the Saiga experts answer that question. I don't know if you could swap out the drum on a chaos setup? If not, this could also be an option with the MP5 drum sight. http://www.cncguns.com/forum/index.php?topic=64.0 It will sit up a little taller though. Might be nice for co witnessing with a red dot scope though? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TO THE FLOOR IN A 63 121 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) Wow I just mounted my Chaos rail but I have not taken it to the range yet. I hope the sights are more then just eye candy. Luckily I ground the hell out of the bottom of the rail instead of cutting out the rear sights as mine didn't easily slide off. Should only take about 5 minutes to put it back to the old tri rail configuration. Edit: Just filing the front post to bring it up should be easy enough. Edited May 15, 2011 by TO THE FLOOR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaseface 41 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 snip: It is too bad that the Chaos H&K style rear drum is not adjustable for elevation. Actual H&K rear drums are. Yeah it is a bummer. I like shooting slugs, and I shoot different brands of slugs so I wouldnt want to file down the front sight to zero it in just to have it shooting high or low for the next brand. I'm definitely gunna get the titan rail but I may decide on different sites. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davidvh86 0 Posted May 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 (edited) update I took it to the range and the sights were dead on . Maybe since its only designed for one variant. Oh and I have a 19 inch barrel and used winchester slugs. Edited May 17, 2011 by David86 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Have you guys looked into the mounting of your quad as a possible answer? I know in order to get the chaos quad and therefor the sights to sit right on mine I had to modify the mounting point on the gas block so that the front and back portions were level. Check the alignment of the quad to the gun in this spot... Also be sure your using the set screw here... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 If your hitting too high it could be a case that the mounting point on the gas block is too low and a thin washer might fix it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Good question! I sent an email to Chaos asking this question after purchasing my upper rail and sights from Chaos. I never got an answer back. I observed that the 2-4 apertures vary in height and tried to see where they would group with slugs at various ranges out to 100yds, but found that the rounds were impacting 2-3 feet high, using Federal LE low recoil. Sorry for digging up a old thread but my CHAOS extended quad with sights also shoots 2-3 feet high with slugs. The rail is straight and level and gas block etc. seems to not be canted or in any other way out of wack. Has anyone come up with a definitive fix for this issue other than installing optics? Don't get me wrong, I do love my Chaos sights, but was disappointed that there were no specs for the other apertures for a specific round. If anyone comes up with a round that works with the sights, let us know! Until then, I'll be looking to put on a red dot when I can afford it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Sorry for balling that up and I can't edit on the phone but my part is the second to last paragraph from the bottom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Sorry for balling that up and I can't edit on the phone but my part is the second to last paragraph from the bottom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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