My New plain Jane S12 converstion

[stokstad 4]

Well I take my plain little converted Saiga 12 and did some mods So here it is. I added an ACE folding Mechanism with the cut the dang tang reciever block. Then I modded a regular handguard to fit. I made a custom lower handguard retainer. I also cut the barrel to 19".

 

 

 

Here it is folded

 

 

 

 

Here is a close up of my custom retainer made from a regular retainer and I ground down the tang from my reciever and welded it to it. It still needs a bit of cleaning up and to be painted

 

 

and from the side.

 

 

The upper handguard still needs to be secured I'm working on that yet. Still have a few more things I want to do, Like have a poly choke installed.

[detpat 0]

sweet, thats exactly the forend setup i am working on for my s20.

pat

[Cobra 76 two 2,677]

Sweet stockstad way to improvise! Sometimes the best thing for the job is what you already have layin' around. I've been working on something similar. Good job!

[32ndgeorgia 0]

Question: Did you consider the krinkov forearm retainer? Would it work better?

 

http://www.k-var.com/product.asp?0=216&1=258&3=571

[stokstad 4]

Question:  Did you consider the krinkov forearm retainer?  Would it work better?

 

http://www.k-var.com/product.asp?0=216&1=258&3=571

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Does that retainer fit a standard AK handguard? if it does then yes that would be a good alternative. Although its a little rich for my blood especially to hack up.

[stokstad 4]

Sweet stockstad way to improvise! Sometimes the best thing for the job is what you already have layin' around. I've been working on something similar. Good job!

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Thanks for the ideas and the comments cobra

[6500rpm 670]

What's different about the krink that makes it more user friendly? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I thought all the 7.62 barrel diameters were so small that by the time you open them up it doesn't leave much to work with. Is the Krink retainer different? I know some had mentioned using RPK's due to the larger barrel. I used a standard Romanian that required mig welding 2 small holes shut before I opened up the hole for the barrel, havent decided on how to attach to the gas block. I used a modified version of Cobra's idea on my upper. Anyway, if I'm missing something, fill me in.

[stokstad 4]

What's different about the krink that makes it more user friendly? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I thought all the 7.62 barrel diameters were so small that by the time you open them up it doesn't leave much to work with. Is the Krink retainer different? I know some had mentioned using RPK's due to the larger barrel. I used a standard Romanian that required mig welding 2 small holes shut before I opened up the hole for the barrel, havent decided on how to attach to the gas block. I used a modified version of Cobra's idea on my upper. Anyway, if I'm missing something, fill me in.

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I'm thinking he thought that would be better becuae its more round and easier to fit around the barrel? Not sure, but I do know I wasnt about to spend $40 on something I was going to hack into pieces. I got my Gas tube and retainer from rick 16 for $25 shipped so I wasnt going to argue there.

[Cobra 76 two 2,677]

I like the Bulgie one. It's plenty strong after removing for the bbl., has a side sling loop, and it was only about 18 bucks if I recall.

[stokstad 4]

I like the Bulgie one. It's plenty strong after removing for the bbl., has a side sling loop, and it was only about 18 bucks if I recall.

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I am usure of the orgin of my retainer but I will say that my bottom handguard is Rock solid. That thing wont go anywhere

[DaGroaner 2]

Well I take my plain little converted Saiga 12 and did some mods    So here it is. I added an ACE folding Mechanism with the cut the dang tang reciever block. Then I modded a regular handguard to fit. I made a custom lower handguard retainer. I also cut the barrel to 19".

 

 

 

Here it is folded

 

 

 

 

Here is a close up of my custom retainer made from a regular retainer and I ground down the tang from my reciever and welded it to it. It still needs a bit of cleaning up and to be painted

 

 

and from the side.

 

 

The upper handguard still needs to be secured I'm working on that yet. Still have a few more things I want to do, Like have a poly choke installed.

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Wow! What a beauty! I am in awe.

[stokstad 4]

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Wow! What a beauty! I am in awe.

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Thanks you

[G O B 3,516]

I like the lug that picks up the factory screw location. Very good work.

 

G O B

[stokstad 4]

I like the lug that picks up the factory screw location. Very good work.

 

G O B

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Thank you and the best part about that lug is its the tang off my reciever hehe waste not want not

[detpat 0]

the heavy retainer for the tapco saiga 308 galil stock works well, it is very heavy and has room for opening up. mine is going on an s20, but still has to be opened up. it's going to be mostly cosmetic as i am using a piece of sheet metal to attach the handguard to the sling screw hole. i am also cutting a notch into a rail to also mount a light to the bottom of the gas block as in my previous photos.

pat

[steve467 0]

it's going to be mostly cosmetic as i am using a piece of sheet metal to attach the handguard to the sling screw hole. 

  pat

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I used sheet metal on my first attempt to fabricate a handguard-to-sling screw hole piece. I found after about 15 slugs it was buckling under the recoil so I replaced it with a thicker piece of mild steel.

 

Steve

[BattleRifleG3 16]

the heavy retainer for the tapco saiga 308 galil stock works well, it is very heavy and has room for opening up.  mine is going on an s20, but still has to be opened up.  it's going to be mostly cosmetic as i am using a piece of sheet metal to attach the handguard to the sling screw hole.  i am also cutting a notch into a rail to also mount a light to the bottom of the gas block as in my previous photos.

  pat

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Tapco makes something specifically for the S-308? Please explain.

[detpat 0]

they just released it, i got it from blackjack. it's a redesigned galil handguard with a metal insert in the reciever tang, to take a screw into the reciever. also has a thick steel retainer ring to mate with the front.

ask blackjack

pat

Edited August 3, 2005 by detpat

[BattleRifleG3 16]

If it tightens, it's their design adapted. If it doesn't... I did it first.

[dodgeturbointerceptor 1]

Looks nice Stokstad!

[detpat 0]

here are pics

pat

Edited August 3, 2005 by detpat

[detpat 0]

sorry about the shitty lighting.

pat

[Wolverine 10,360]

Here's what the Tapco retainer looks like on a TDI grip. And yes it does tighten down and hold the grip in place.

Edited August 3, 2005 by Wolverine

[detpat 0]

of course the screw is too thick to fit between the barrel and gas tube on an s12 or s20

pat

[Wolverine 10,360]

of course the screw is too thick to fit between the barrel and gas tube on an s12 or s20

  pat

 

Bummer on the 12 and 20 shotties. I'm looking to put it on a 7.62 conversion.

[detpat 0]

looks like it would be perfect for that, i think that's what they had in mind, i just wanted something better than the friction fit wood item i had.

pat

[IndyArms 10,186]

Perhaps on the S12 and S20, you could put a groove in? or maybe a THINNER BOLT and a NUT of some sort, on the other side, if done tastefully, might be a winner...