IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Can be found HERE: http://forum.saiga-1...ew/#entry769937 I will also be moving the current kushnapup threads to the review section as well... where they belong... links to them will remain in the threads where they currently exist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigchris 31 Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Nice write up, thanks for sharing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ec4321 113 Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Nice review, looking forward to additional data points. I am afraid alot of folks coming here after getting there kushnapup chassis may not find the right place though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 No worries, they will... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Nice write up, glad you like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 I gotta tell you... I DO love this stock!!! I DONT HAVE to love it!! I dont have to say its anything other than what it is... but I do! It is the cats pajamas if you want a bullpup on a saiga without the need to convert or screw around. Drop in fit! little or no tweaking required. ( By tweaking... I mean THIS: If you want to cut the tangs off, and keep it in this stock, its simple... If you need to add a spacer... thats easy enough to do too! and THATS the extent of it!!! ) Other than missing an optics rail... which our vendor at CSS sells... ( at least for the S12's... ) this kit is the WAY TO GO! :up: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigchris 31 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 can you post a link to the optics rail that css sells? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 it is linked in the review section down at the bottom... and NO I wont... cause if you go and buy the last one, before *I* get one... I will hunt you down, skin you alive with bullhead pliers, and roll you in kosher salt... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 can you post a link to the optics rail that css sells? We will have a new small optic rail this weekend that replaces the rear sight on the Saiga Shotguns. It will work well for this product and is much less expensive than the full ultimak rail. I will post a link as soon as they come in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 AWESOME!!!! Sounds like a winning idea!!! Cant wait to see one!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mavidal 5 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Cool, can't wait to see it and get it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zeus540 2 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 has anyone done a saiga that has been converted? I converted mine and i read on kushnapup you have to trim down a certain part of the stock, was wondering if anyone has done it yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KennyFSU 249 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Great review, love all the detailed photos too, thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 has anyone done a saiga that has been converted? I converted mine and i read on kushnapup you have to trim down a certain part of the stock, was wondering if anyone has done it yet? The kushnapup stock does NOT work with CONVERTED Saigas. The part that needs to be trimmed are the rear upper and lower tangs. I circumvented THAT process on MY kpup build by adding the extension to the stock. If you have a converted saiga you either can reconvert it back to use the kushnapup stock, or it just gives you an excuse to BUY ANOTHER SAIGA!!!! and after all... isn't that just a WIN/WIN situation??!?!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I can't get your videos to work. It keeps redirecting me to download new shit that I don't wanna download. Videobam sucks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 just CLOSE that redirect window.... its just an AD!!!! I thought I mentioned that in the post.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Use Picassa. It is free and has huge space limits. Also there are no view limits for the videos or pictures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 i edited the post for future reference for folks with that same issue. it said it before, just in small print down near the second or third video... now its bold, red, and up top! LOL next time, I will try picassa. just picked on of the first video hostings that popped up... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 No sir. All that happen is a circle that goes round and round and round. "close window to play" sends my to various downloaders. No problem with videos on other hosts. I'm not playing with videobambambambam. Sorry, I really wanted to watch your videos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 ok, I will try to repost them a different way... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strawman 2 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I have see it mentioned in the gun wiki, to put a nut, or washer behind the trigger return spring. I initially did this, however even with the smallest one I could find it caused some binding on the transfer bar. I personally don't recommend you do this as the binding may bend the bar over time. I went without it, and the spring stays in place fine, captured by the plastic rib that was intended for that purpose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigchris 31 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Has anyone tried dumping a 20 round drum with these kits yet? It seems like it would be awkward to have to reach around the drum. Any comments on this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ec4321 113 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Has anyone tried dumping a 20 round drum with these kits yet? It seems like it would be awkward to have to reach around the drum. Any comments on this? I have not actually shot with the drum in the Kush, however, I have shouldered it with the drum in. Completely awkward and nearly unusable. May do a round dump from the hip if you're into that. The only real option if you need 20rds is a 20rd stick mag from JTE or what not if you want to shoot the kush shouldered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skadrummer 3 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 20 round drum from the shoulder wasn't ideal. I have to bend my wrist, I like my wrist straight like a punch. From the hip, no problem althought wrist is bent the other way, if that makes sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BpS12 512 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Try a 12rnd minidrum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjd393 18 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Has anyone tried dumping a 20 round drum with these kits yet? It seems like it would be awkward to have to reach around the drum. Any comments on this? I have not actually shot with the drum in the Kush, however, I have shouldered it with the drum in. Completely awkward and nearly unusable. May do a round dump from the hip if you're into that. The only real option if you need 20rds is a 20rd stick mag from JTE or what not if you want to shoot the kush shouldered. I'd be curious to hear how it was with a 12 round drum. That's what I would like to run *IF* I buy the Kush. I have see it mentioned in the gun wiki, to put a nut, or washer behind the trigger return spring. I initially did this, however even with the smallest one I could find it caused some binding on the transfer bar. I personally don't recommend you do this as the binding may bend the bar over time. I went without it, and the spring stays in place fine, captured by the plastic rib that was intended for that purpose. Do you think it would hold up over time captured by the plastic rib? I'm new to the forum and I'm *VERY TEMPTED* to buy a Kush kit. I won't be shooting it a ton. I'm curious, once I have worked out the minor bugs and get it installed, how long do you think it would take to take it apart for a field cleaning? Also, I imagine you *could* clean most of it from above without breaking it all down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I didnt even USE the spring in my build... I had more than enough trigger reset from the linkage and my factory trigger... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjd393 18 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I didnt even USE the spring in my build... I had more than enough trigger reset from the linkage and my factory trigger... EXCELLENT! Given mine is brand new I should be in the same boat! I'm 99% sure I'm going to buy it for a fun project! I checked out the gas tube last night and the hole is perfectly aligned! The hammer spring is also VERY beefy! Overall I'm VERY impressed with the build on this Izhmash. I also know they had a few years to work out the kinks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skadrummer 3 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 I used a UTG mount, drilled the tapped holes for a tight clearance of the UTG hex cap screws and tapped into the Kush stock 4x 6-32. I can finally see with the addition of the Bushnell holo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjd393 18 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I used a UTG mount, drilled the tapped holes for a tight clearance of the UTG hex cap screws and tapped into the Kush stock 4x 6-32. I can finally see with the addition of the Bushnell holo. Just so I understand correctly, did you use the top rail of this unit? http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?mitem=mount&itemno=MTU002 I was going to try to fit the upper half piece that goes over the gas tube (the piece that the upper pic rail sections mount to) and drill and tap the flat sections of the Kush stock forearm for the four mounting screws. It looks as if the upside down "U" channels would fill the slightly gap between the gas tube and the Kush stock and then seat nicely over the flat spot. Here is a good end on view of it: http://img.inkfrog.com/click_enlarge1.php?image=MSG12__(1)_001_JPG_450.jpg&username=tigerrock&aid=319415096 CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM/VERIFY AND POST CLOSE UP PICTURES?! *** I really wanted to use this setup as I could avoid removing the front sight and tapping/screwing the Ultimak to the gas tube. *** I am GRATEFUL for your help! This is the last tipping point for me on whether to take on the Kush project. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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