jpnrm96 70 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Stopped at the magazine section in the grocery store this evening. Picked up the October copy of Special Weapons to glance at. There seems to be a new player in the Custom Saiga arena, or maybe they aren't. I just thought I'd pass along the info as there was a lengthy article written about their custom Saiga shotguns and AKs'. I've not heard of this company before but they have a fairly nifty website. Bravo 18. It's always fun to read about our favorite children. Take a look and post your opinions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goose 95 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I dunno, they seem a lil tacticool 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 They have been around for a while. I agree on the "too tacticool" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Takes more than a cool looking paint job to building a tactical S12. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwissyJim 117 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 is it me or am I missing something? There is no mention of any reliability work done... just aesthetic stuff. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 is it me or am I missing something? There is no mention of any reliability work done... just aesthetic stuff. The "Devil is in the details". There are quite a few shops out there that do nothing or very little in regards to reliability work when it comes to their conversions. A buyer sees something that looks good to them and it is a couple hundred cheaper, so they go with it. Looks great when they get it in hand, if they are lucky.... and runs like shit. In the Saiga 12 market, you get what you pay for or much less. My best advice to someone looking for a conversion is to look at close up pics of the rear of the receiver of a conversion done by the company, if you can find some. This can be a good indicator of how much they care, how high or low their standards are when it comes to cosmetics, and how much time they are actually spending on the weapons. I don't mean the pics on their site either. Google is your friend. You may be able to see whether or not they weld and blend the holes, have a blind monkey doing the blending, disturb the lower radius of the receiver by grinding into it, grind waves in the receiver, fill the importer markings, leave grind marks down all sides of the receiver that show through the finish, hack up AK100 conversions, or grind into the rear block rivet heads. If a company will leave some bullshit hacked up stuff visible on the outside, bet your ass they don't give a damn about the quality of work on the internals either. Very sad, but true. I'm so glad I can do my own work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 They were the ones selling the AOW pistol with OEM parts, and a hex rail so you can mount 3 scopes on top of your pistol shotgun. Oh and also, full length gas system. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) They were the ones selling the AOW pistol with OEM parts, and a hex rail so you can mount 3 scopes on top of your pistol shotgun. Oh and also, full length gas system. Wasn't that AOW on the original receiver? I remember it being that way. Well, every shotgun needs a red dot, NV, and a 50mm obj scope for sniping with slugs. 3 scopes is perfect. Edited August 31, 2012 by evlblkwpnz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 That's what I meant. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olsn500 4 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I do like the left handed charging handles though, much easier than reaching over or under the gun to charge another mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 They were the ones selling the AOW pistol with OEM parts, and a hex rail so you can mount 3 scopes on top of your pistol shotgun. Oh and also, full length gas system. Yeah, I noticed that full length gas system. That was a big Flag for me. I was looking beyond the eye candy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bridis 319 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Good looking stuff... Not sure how ur suppose to order anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeremiahisnaked 64 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 It reminds me of the cheap B movie "future" guns where they pile a bunch of weird shit on an existing weapon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 That's what I meant. I just needed to make sure that I was reading between the correct lines Not sure how they are getting away with it, but it doesn't surprise me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 It reminds me of the cheap B movie "future" guns where they pile a bunch of weird shit on an existing weapon. You mean like Han Solo's "blaster" in Star Wars? (C96 broomhandle) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeremiahisnaked 64 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Well that wasn't what I was thinking about at the time I posted, but it did cross my mind afterwards. So YUP! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lead Poison 2 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I think they look ridiculous. Some cool stuff is fine but goodness gracious those things look like modern art.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 The main this is if they have a compitent Gunsmith in this store why is it that the Gas Block on the SBS S12 still in the stock position ? Any joe can cut a S12 barrel in his Garage, and throw some paint on the Gun. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RGVBadBoy 9 Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 I really like some of their stuff, I wouldn't mind putting together a Draco pistol with that handgaurd... Looks sharp!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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