os2firefox 0 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) Does the AK or VEPR do well in rain or will it start rusting immediately? I was looking at buying a Remington XCR (treated stainless steel), but just found out that there are a bunch of VEPRs out for sale around my area. I was wondering how they do in harsh/wet environments.... From what I've read, they have some sort of anti-corrosive finish. How easy is it to scratch and repair? Also, how does the wood stock hold up on the veprs? Edited September 4, 2012 by os2firefox Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobRez 1,895 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) Well, I know it sounds cliche, but if you maintain your rifle properly, rust should not be an issue. Rust, in and of itself, will not stop an AK platform rifle from functioning. If you were to scratch the finish of most any rifle, and put it away wet, there would be visible corrosion on it in a somewhat short period of time. The longevity of any rifle depends greatly on the care and maintanance of it's owner. A well maintained rifle can last many lifetimes....And rust knows no bounderies!! edit; if you will be out in wet weather, go for the stainless rifle, if the price is right. Edited September 4, 2012 by RobRez Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 AK's can take anything. If it can fire with a twinkie in the receiver, it can handle a lil shower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wIFsG0ey4g 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Rain's not a big deal. Just dry and oil the rifle later. What RobRez said - seconded. Care and maintenance are paramount. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobRez 1,895 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) ^^^That was the first thing that popped into my head too!! You rock! The video is awesome Edited September 4, 2012 by RobRez 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Keep a thin oil film on it, these things work in rice paddy's. A little rain aint gonna hurt it! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 The steel used in Vepr and saiga rifles is slightly rust resistant anyway. Just remember that most "stainless steel" will show corrosion or rust if given the correct conditions, which is why most stainless is coated with a chrome or other coating for boat fittings and other saltwater use. Unless your planning to use the rifle for constant ocean use you'll be fine with an AK. PS, most gun oils evaporate or wipe off fairly quickly.. I've used some industrial wax coatings that seemed to work much better then oil on items that we handle a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Frog lube is the stuff Never had any issue in the rain with my AK. My AR does fine in a downpour, did it yesterday, my MKA-1919 did fine as well. Made sure to dry out the shotty as the barrels on the outside with that coating seem to get a nice rust to them, not that it'd worry me, but it would bug me and I would feel like a lazy person for not taking proper care of my firearms. I haven't tried a twinkie, but we did shove a few fries in the battery and slamed it, it worked *shrugs* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mostholycerebus 415 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 My AR is mostly plastic, so its pretty much immune to rain. AKs can be up to 93.2% rust and still function flawlessly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joebanda1213 59 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I have fired my AK in a downpour. Took it home dried it off and oiled it. I wash my AK74 with a garden hose after every shoot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) An AK will breath fire while Zeus, the God of rain, pisses down the barrel after an all night keg party. So.............yeah. Edited September 4, 2012 by DogMan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 AK's can take anything. If it can fire with a twinkie in the receiver, it can handle a lil shower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wIFsG0ey4g I use twinkie filling to lube my rifles now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I use twinkie filling to lube my rifles now. I hear Whoopie Pies have the added advantage of getting you laid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 if im going to be shooting in the rain, i run mine with tuff glide. works well but aint cheap. i use it mostly for my blades, but it works great on rifles too. and stainless steel will rust under the right conditions, but less prone than non stainless. if you do your part, it will do its part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Stainless steel will corrode if it's exposed to chlorides, such as bleach, or certain acids. It will rust if exposed to rust from carbon steel. Now it's level of resistance to corrosion depends on the grade of stainless. 304 will rust like a son of a bitch in a marine environment. 316L will rust only if exposed to carbon rust. Now that seems easy to avoid till you realize that carbon grinding dust today is rust spots tomorrow. You have to anesthetize the process using a hydrofluric acid, a.k.a picking paste. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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