Lone Eagle 839 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Chicago. Another FBI "fake bomb" sting. When are they going to learn these people will never like us. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/18-year-old-arrested-after-allegedly-trying-to-bomb-chicago-bar/ (TheBlaze/AP) — Undercover FBI agents arrested an 18-year-old American man who tried to detonate what he believed was a car bomb outside a downtown Chicago bar, federal prosecutors said Saturday. Adel Daoud, a U.S. citizen from the Chicago suburb of Hillside, was arrested Friday night in an undercover operation in which an agent pretending to be a terrorist provided him with a phony car bomb and watched him press the trigger, prosecutors said. The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Chicago, which announced the arrest Saturday, said the device was harmless and the public was never at risk. Daoud is charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and attempting to damage and destroy a building with an explosive. How long before the next "harmless device" is a real one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Seems to me the FBI is out looking for people that they can get to do this shit. Its not catching someone when you basically talk them into something and provide them the shit to do it with. To me, they are creating the threat and then saving the day and not actually "catching" anyone. Good read though. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I do not see this a s entrapment, it is just the same as people looking for a 'hit man'. If you are looking for a bomb, or a 'hit man', you will more likely find a Cop than what you are looking for! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I agree GOB. I just dont trust the alphabet agencies enough to believe what they say as truth. They tend to leave out a lot of details that would otherwise have people question their initial actions to begin with. But thats nothing new. I just wonder how many others will be busted before they tell us to surrender our rights completely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mostholycerebus 415 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Yeah, I saw that article and thought it seemed a fine line of sting vs entrapment. They say they offered the guy a few chances to walk away though, which is what it comes down to. Id like to see the details of those conversations, but likely only the judge will. I guess its better the FBI found him before some actual terrorist operative. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Here's an odd one... Very local, too. Police: Nursing home bomb scare traced to India [/url] Print Email September 14, 2012 1:08 pm (2) Comments GRANVILLE -- Dozens of residents of The Orchard Nursing Home and Rehabilitation Center were evacuated several days ago by a bomb scare that State Police have followed to India. Who exactly was responsible remains to be seen, however. The call was made to the Route 40 home in the early afternoon Sept. 7. The male caller reported there was a bomb, and that it would be detonated if law enforcement respond. State Police responded and searched the home with a bomb-detecting dog, and nothing was found. Residents remained out of the home for more than 2 hours. State Police traced the call, and found it was funneled through a number of computer programs to disguise from where it came, authorities said. The investigation led to Alabama, Great Britain and India, with the inquiry hitting a dead end in India. A home in Great Britain was searched as part of the investigation. No arrests have been made and no suspects have been identified. Anyone with information in the case was asked to call State Police at 642-9455. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 They can try and track down the callers, however, it's still the EOD guys that have to safe and clear the areas after the fact with these threats. Sadly, just like the mirror sites the hackers run that you can download all kinds of free software, they are not going to catch them. Hope they can catch more of these homegrown Jihadis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Not too impressed with the FBI kicking the hornets nest. You can find thousands of people pissed off at something that are stupid enough to go along with a bad idea. Look at all the fools who fell for Obama! Targeting young confused youth, regardless of religion, and hiring them to blow something up is completely retarded. The whole Chicago thing was set up by the FBI and would not have happened if they didn't initiate it. The reason they do this is to keep funding for their organization and other union entities like the TSA. If the sheep get scared enough, they wont mind being in an America that resembles the big brother shit hole known as the UK. TSA everywhere and cameras watching you take a dump. Thwarted? NO! Initiated, YES! Another example of federal overreach. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 If you suspect any beautiful, clean looking prostitute of being a cop all you have to do is ask her "Show me your mammary glands." before offering any money. Not that I've ever done it, of course. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I don't see this as thwarting since the guy was set up in a sting. It's kinda like hunters that go to hunting reserves that are fenced and the animals are actually captive. I would see it as thwarting if they had caught a guy actually building his own bomb and stopping him before he sets it off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 This reeks to me of another phony false flag attack. The FBI has made it a point in the last few years to seek out these less than bright chumps, equip them with fake bombs, and then rush to the rescue to "stop a attack of mass destruction". Much easier for them to orchestrate this kind of bullshit than it is for them to stop any real threat.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) I get what everyone is saying about entrapment, but I would rather have the FBI undercover selling dipshits fake bombs than for real bombmakers to be selling them the real ones. If the guy pushed the button thinking he was going to blow up a car, he is guilty of trying to blow up a car and harm innocent people regardless of where he got the idea. Assembling materials that may or may not harm people is not the same as pushing the button of a fake detonator you believe will kill people. Edited September 18, 2012 by BuffetDestroyer 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I get what everyone is saying about entrapment, but I would rather have the FBI undercover selling dipshits fake bombs than for real bombmakers to be selling them the real ones. If the guy pushed the button thinking he was going to blow up a car, he is guilty of trying to blow up a car and harm innocent people regardless of where he got the idea. Assembling materials that may or may not harm people is not the same as pushing the button of a fake detonator you believe will kill people. Then the FBI is quilty too. The FBI is quilty of creating wood be killers by building decoys of mass distruction for them to use so they can arrest someone. Sounds like a reverse terror plot. Scare the masses enough and they will beg you to disarm them and provide protection. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) I dont know fellas. I just dont trust everything that is released by the agencies to be truthful. We all know what went down at Ruby Ridge and Waco, and they tried to spin it then. So nothing is out of the realm of possibility when it comes to agencies like this. But my perspective is where does this tactic end? How far will they take this type of shit? Will it stop with just explosvies, or will they illegaly give guns to people that normaly wouldnt have access to them so they can go commit a crime with them? But its hard to stop someone with an idea. Id say this tactic does thin the flock, but they could find a million poeple that are pissed off, pump them up and give them the shit, bust them and look good in doing so. I miss old fashion police work. Edited September 19, 2012 by Captain Hero Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) The same tactics are used by police to catch child molesters. The police go online and pose as little children to entice predators into a meet for sex and lewd acts. This is a crime I would rather NOT have committed on little kids, but instead have the police waiting to arrest these monsters. They are still entitled to a fair trial. I distrust my government, but that doesn't mean that all that they do is bad and that all FBI agents are evil people looking to strip away our rights rather than put away bad dudes that want to kill and hurt the innocent. Fast and Furious is a recent example where good agents did not go along with it despite it costing several of them their careers. Edited September 19, 2012 by BuffetDestroyer 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
filthygovemploye 64 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 gonna pla ydevils advocate and assume that they watched him searching for bomb plans, then just reeled him in. whats prob stupider is the standard of proof or whatever required to convict a jihadi... I dont know fellas. I just dont trust everything that is released by the agencies to be truthful. We all know what went down at Ruby Ridge and Waco, and they tried to spin it then. So nothing is out of the realm of possibility when it comes to agencies like this. But my perspective is where does this tactic end? How far will they take this type of shit? Will it stop with just explosvies, or will they illegaly give guns to people that normaly wouldnt have access to them so they can go commit a crime with them? But its hard to stop someone with an idea. Id say this tactic does thin the flock, but they could find a million poeple that are pissed off, pump them up and give them the shit, bust them and look good in doing so. I miss old fashion police work. my concept for ruby ridge/waco etc type incidents is, we the people need to show up and take the "negotiating" out of the jack boots hands...we all know how many dogs are raped and wives are killed when the gooberment comes to town... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 my concept for ruby ridge/waco etc type incidents is, we the people need to show up and take the "negotiating" out of the jack boots hands...we all know how many dogs are raped and wives are killed when the gooberment comes to town... Did we really just have a government employee state that the government rapes dogs when it enters towns? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 my concept for ruby ridge/waco etc type incidents is, we the people need to show up and take the "negotiating" out of the jack boots hands...we all know how many dogs are raped and wives are killed when the gooberment comes to town... Did we really just have a government employee state that the government rapes dogs when it enters towns? Dont forget he's filthy to boot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 my concept for ruby ridge/waco etc type incidents is, we the people need to show up and take the "negotiating" out of the jack boots hands...we all know how many dogs are raped and wives are killed when the gooberment comes to town... Did we really just have a government employee state that the government rapes dogs when it enters towns? Dont forget he's filthy to boot. Probably in on the dog rape Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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