SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) Are all these made in america parts you guys are adding to your 1919 actually stamped Made in USA anywhere on them ? If not, then how would anyone know it is an american made part vs. the original turkey part? I'm talking about all the internal parts (triggers, springs, gas tube, ect) Edited February 8, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flatland Shooter 22 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 The springs, gas tube and such are not 922 compliant parts. The following website has information on what parts can be swapped out with US made parts to make your MKA 1919 compliant. I shows that the US made parts and factory imported parts have enough difference in appearance that they can be distinguished from each other. Bill http://www.gunsumerreports.com/review_akdal_mka_1919_p7.php Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QuickShot 0 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I've saved the reciepts for the US made parts for documentation. -Hopefully, It will never be needed. Who knows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Every part down to the screws are USA made in all Firebird components Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BellaCorse 4 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I suspect receipts are all that is needed to verify the compliant parts in your gun. And let's face it... if you have got the ATF breaking your guns down, you're in for a world of hurt moreso than just having a non-compliant gun. /M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted February 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Thats why I'm not all caught up in the 922 hype. I remember someone saying on this forum that there has never been a doucumented case of anyone ever being prosocuted for violateing the 922 law. Also if your firebird parts or whatever upgrades dont have any made in usa stamping on them, I dont see how it would make any difference. Unless the ATF guy actually has parts to compare, I dont see how they could prove a thing. and even so, whos to say I didnt machine thoes parts myself. None of the internal parts on my gun say made in turkey. I say 922 is nothing but scare tactics. JMO Edited February 14, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timmmyy 9 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 SHOTGUN MESIAH I agree 100% on the 922 bs tactics .and TAPCO is really pushing it http://www.tapco.com/section922r/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trappnguns 1 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Ya know, I have always wondered something about this silly rule... I have built a few AK's strictly following the rules, but wondered if I even have to. I think this would apply to those getting a firebird receiver: The receiver is the gun. My AK receivers were made in the USA. The Firebird receivers were made in the USA. Therefore the gun was not imported. The GUN (receiver) was manufactured here... Then there is the Benelli thing. The M4? shotgun is all made elsewhere. It is refinished here in the USA. GTG apparently. That means I can build a foreign made rifle, here in the USA, refinish it and Boom... No 922r. To me, it seems 922r does not apply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Thats why I'm not all caught up in the 922 hype. I remember someone saying on this forum that there has never been a doucumentedcase of anyone ever being prosocuted for violateing the 922 law. Also if your firebird parts or whatever upgrades dont have any made in usa stamping on them, I dont see how it would make any difference. Unless the ATF guy actually has parts to compare, I dont see how they could prove a thing. and even so, whos to say I didnt machine thoes parts myself. None of the internal parts on my gun say made in turkey. I say 922 is nothing but scare tactics. JMO That would have been me, well your close anyway. with out looking it up again here's what I remember. Our ATF investagator said, she had no knowledge of anyone being charged with a 922 violation except when added to other criminal charges. I'm not willing to be the test case, but I agree with what's been said above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I would play by the rules! Unless you like to gamble....and hey, whats a few years in prison jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Armand Willis 4 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I would play by the rules! Unless you like to gamble....and hey, whats a few years in prison jim You've got mail. Will call you in the morning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trappnguns 1 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I would play by the rules! Unless you like to gamble....and hey, whats a few years in prison jim It gives you "street cred" too... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ec4321 113 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Sure nobody's been nicked. It's a questionable law anyway. However, it doesn't matter if they can prove it or not. They CAN indict you. Once they do that, most of us are toast anyway. You may not ever go to prison but if the feds indicted you over some silly shit like that, they have a hard on for you and they can make that case last and last draining every last gram of lifeblood from you. You have kids? A wife? Anyone that cares about you or depends upon you? Not worth it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Sure nobody's been nicked. It's a questionable law anyway. However, it doesn't matter if they can prove it or not. They CAN indict you. Once they do that, most of us are toast anyway. You may not ever go to prison but if the feds indicted you over some silly shit like that, they have a hard on for you and they can make that case last and last draining every last gram of lifeblood from you. You have kids? A wife? Anyone that cares about you or depends upon you? Not worth it. This. Always the best to just follow the rules. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snwbrdrcr 17 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Don't worry all the SKS owners will keep you company . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Madwand 2 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 My guess is that the most likely time this will ever be a concern is after you shoot someone with the gun. And even then, it's a stretch they would get involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QuickShot 0 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Another reason for keeping reciepts and records for your modified 922r parts is that it will establish a timeline of when the weapon was built. In the event there is a 'Grand Father' clause in place, You would likely need this proof. If the BATF wanted to crack down on 922r violations, Where do you think they would start looking? I want to take my MKA to any gun range and shoot without looking over my shoulder for 'the man' L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
siggarue 0 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 When you cut off the stock and add US made parts to what's left does that count toward the total part count for US? If you add a foreign made tube and/or stock is the whole operation a wash or did we just add yet another non US part? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) do what I do and save yourself alot of money and headaches.............shoot alone. there is no ATF man in my neck of the woods, guarantee that. Edited February 19, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flatland Shooter 22 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 do what I do and save yourself alot of money and headaches.............shoot alone. there is no ATF man in my neck of the woods, guarantee that. That's why they put Rfid chips into your boxes of ammo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Thats ok, I always empty my ammo into my ammo cans anyways and toss the box, that and I always shoot naked too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
compshootfl 40 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Too funny...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 For you guys who MIGHT need to glue your stock or grip back on Here's the last two weeks of MKA parts and accessories. about a 30 gallon trash can of hulls included NO CHARGE just pay shipping Dang pic wont load, have to wait till I get home later tonite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 I know that feeling, we've hauled several pickup-loads of cut off grips and stocks to the dump. Probably could have made a small fortune reselling shotshells, I don't know how much 40,000 is worth, but threw them away too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
compshootfl 40 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 As an avid reloader of shotgun shells....I am crying right now. If you get a thousand or two of Nitro golds or AA hulls...I would be a buyer for those premium hulls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 About 99.5% of what we shoot is low brass , bulk pak . Not worth reloading I'm told. The .5% is usually not in a place to pick up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cad_man 4 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I know the majority of gun owners will poo poo the idea that the law will inspect their firearms for whatever reason, but it does happen. Here in Cali, encounters with the BLM and Forest Service are frequent enough that you should be on your toes about the legality of whatever you are shooting. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=636033 I know, an old crime blog, but if you invite trouble it may follow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ec4321 113 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) A SD shooting could turn really ugly if done with a firearm in violation of 922r. Now all of a sudden it's being touted about as a killing done with an illegally modified weapon. Have fun with that. Edited February 22, 2013 by ec4321 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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