ec4321 113 Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 pics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedNut 0 Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Some pics of mine installed, w/ accessories. Also, here's the short video I used for removing the gas tube from the handguard using a vice. As simple as it is, it helps to see it done first and realize it's ok to use the force that's needed, especially for us mechanical-idiot types. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadyVepr 10 Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 I have no problems with blocking the front sight it does not even even come close to blocking it. Unless I am not understanding what you were saying Sorry my pics blow lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thor's Hammer 33 Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Looks like they could mill a channel down the center of the top rail and resolve any interference with the iron sights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Looks like they could mill a channel down the center of the top rail and resolve any interference with the iron sights. I will never relieve the center of a rail unless I flat have no choice, I just don't like the look. These have tons of sight clearance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st381 3 Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 It didn't block the front sight or sight picture, for me it blocked the front sight post. I zeroed in with the sight post set pretty low and the top rail blocked the post requiring me to raise the post until I can see it. I have not been to the range to re-zero so I don't know what effect this will have for me. I usually take a pretty high cheek weld so the front sight post has been set low to adjust and allow me to bring the barrel down when shooting. Not a complaint but an observation for me as the top rail sits higher than the factory rail cover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mountain Man 20 Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) Looks like they could mill a channel down the center of the top rail and resolve any interference with the iron sights. I will never relieve the center of a rail unless I flat have no choice, I just don't like the look. These have tons of sight clearance. Cameron, do you have a time frame for the rear rail yet? I know, we just got the quad... At least you are busy... Edited July 13, 2013 by Mountain Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Looks like they could mill a channel down the center of the top rail and resolve any interference with the iron sights. I will never relieve the center of a rail unless I flat have no choice, I just don't like the look. These have tons of sight clearance. Cameron, do you have a time frame for the rear rail yet? I know, we just got the quad... At least you are busy... Not at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thor's Hammer 33 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 It didn't block the front sight or sight picture, for me it blocked the front sight post. I zeroed in with the sight post set pretty low and the top rail blocked the post requiring me to raise the post until I can see it. I have not been to the range to re-zero so I don't know what effect this will have for me. I usually take a pretty high cheek weld so the front sight post has been set low to adjust and allow me to bring the barrel down when shooting. Not a complaint but an observation for me as the top rail sits higher than the factory rail cover. If it blocks the front post on a properly zeroed firearm, then it is blocking the correct sight picture. I assume you can select a longer distance setting on the rear sight to raise it above the rail, and use this for your new zero. On a CQB shotgun this might be no big deal to some I suppose. However, on a rifle I would channel it on my mill. I would on my vepr shotgun too if I were to buy the rail. (I'm thinking about it) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st381 3 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I got to the range this weekend and replaced the front sight post with a bright orange front sight post. I can see the top of the post just above the rail and was able to adjust and shoot accurately. I threw on a foregrip and the jack screws held the quad rail tight through 100 rounds of #8, 2 3/4" target load. I did have to cinch the jack screws up about a quarter turn once I got back home and checked them. A little loctite will remedy that as I don't really need to take the bottom quads off as the barrel is accessible for cleaning/dusting. All-in-all I am very happy with the quad rail and if you are into rails I would highly recommend it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
menace667 194 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Thors hammer is unofficially (by me) on the market offering a relief channel onto the rail. Seriously, I would love to see what it would look like with the rail channeled. If you decide to get one and channel it pictures would be awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thor's Hammer 33 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) If I were to buy and mod one, I'd make the cut similar to the YHM-9631. Edited July 16, 2013 by Thor's Hammer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
menace667 194 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 That would look sweet. Would love to see a Vepr rail channeled like that. If a rail had a fed dot mounted, i wonder if that channel would allow for use of irons with the dot mounted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mountain Man 20 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 So after putting my Chaos rail on I started realizing how heavy my Vepr was getting but after putting on a Magpul RVG it felt really balanced, I really recommend any type of VFG for the Vepr 12 it makes a big difference. I just went with the Magpul because I didn't have to sink a lot of money into it and could return it easily at Cabella's if I end up not liking it. I also looked at the Tango Down Stubby and Larue FUG, but for me it just came down to price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAKAK47 21 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 So after putting my Chaos rail on I started realizing how heavy my Vepr was getting but after putting on a Magpul RVG it felt really balanced, I really recommend any type of VFG for the Vepr 12 it makes a big difference. I just went with the Magpul because I didn't have to sink a lot of money into it and could return it easily at Cabella's if I end up not liking it. I also looked at the Tango Down Stubby and Larue FUG, but for me it just came down to price. Until you post a picture, this is a total lie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mountain Man 20 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 So after putting my Chaos rail on I started realizing how heavy my Vepr was getting but after putting on a Magpul RVG it felt really balanced, I really recommend any type of VFG for the Vepr 12 it makes a big difference. I just went with the Magpul because I didn't have to sink a lot of money into it and could return it easily at Cabella's if I end up not liking it. I also looked at the Tango Down Stubby and Larue FUG, but for me it just came down to price. Until you post a picture, this is a total lie Lol, I really do enjoy the accountability 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dougkellermann 8 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I installed mine. If you excuse me, I need a moment...... Cameron, have you considered providing a tube or adding a back section to the top mount so it fits into the ridge of the tube where the standard plastic top guard sits. Please let me know if you need a alpha tester..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAKAK47 21 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 So after putting my Chaos rail on I started realizing how heavy my Vepr was getting but after putting on a Magpul RVG it felt really balanced, I really recommend any type of VFG for the Vepr 12 it makes a big difference. I just went with the Magpul because I didn't have to sink a lot of money into it and could return it easily at Cabella's if I end up not liking it. I also looked at the Tango Down Stubby and Larue FUG, but for me it just came down to price. Until you post a picture, this is a total lie Lol, I really do enjoy the accountability photo(2).JPG photo(3).JPG photo(1).JPG thanks for the verification! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CRZ 1 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Here's a quick pic. Edited July 18, 2013 by CRZ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAKAK47 21 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 CRZ, first off, very nice VEPR, loving the green, 2nd, how is the balance with the Chaos rails and that flashlight? Does the red dot and magpul stock balance it out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CRZ 1 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 CRZ, first off, very nice VEPR, loving the green, 2nd, how is the balance with the Chaos rails and that flashlight? Does the red dot and magpul stock balance it out? 1) thanks! 2) it's a tad forward-heavy, but yes, the STR and Trijicon reflex do help level it. Overall, this is not a nimble beast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
critterdoc 1 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 The whole unit will wiggle and slide about 1/8". I fixed this by wrapping the ends of the lower quad in black electrical tape which fills the space and provides filler to securely lock the bottom quad in. I used mountain man's insight and wisdom and tightened those set screws but I am going to the electrical tape in place just cuz I'm too lazy to take it off and I want that quad to stay tight as my intention is to mount a forward grip. st381, please provide more detail on exactly where and how you applied electrical tape to the "ends of the quad rail to add stability to your installation. The set screws to appear to have taken the "manual" play out of my installation but I likewise am going to have a go at a forward grip when I get this beast out to the range. If the tape is a clean application and if it complements the effect of the set screws I'll probably try it also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
critterdoc 1 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Some confirmation from Chaos regarding whether or not those are set screws on the bottom of the rail would be nice. There were no instructions and it didn't occur to me that those may be set screws. Still I would worry about scratching given the heavy recoil of the weapon platform and all. Tightening the jack screws on the bottom lock everything up nice and tight! I see some mentioning of putting material between the set screws and barrel, I don't recommend this, as you want the set screws to bite the barrel a little so they lock in there. I've heard rumors that these battle axes wear their "battle badges" proudly. The Chaos Quad Rail installed on this Com-Bloc noob's Vepr-12 with no notable problems whatsoever, and she hasn't even come close to breaking her maiden yet. Concerning the jack screws, what say you about Loctite? Red or blue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadyVepr 10 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 if you ever want to take it apart don't use red. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
critterdoc 1 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 if you ever want to take it apart don't use red. I was referring specifically to the jack screws - being concerned that the rail might get hammered hard enough for blue to loosen enough to effect the performance of an optical or laser device. Seems unlikely that the lower handguard would ever need to be removed but when I was installing it the thought crossed my mind that the lower rail could be removable even if the screws were installed with red loctite. Am curious to see what Cameron recommends. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Do not use red, only blue Loctite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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