XD45 7,124 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) After they announced this rifle in '12 and then nothing for 2 years I figured it was vaporware. But they're shipping now and I look forward to seeing some reviews. The thing that has kept me away from 7.62x39 ARs is the shitty mags. I hope the rifle does well and they come out with a pistol. Cause that's what I'm really waiting for. And before somebody points it out, nope, drums won't fit. EDIT: There is a review from G&A. Edited September 7, 2014 by Darth Saigus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
U.S. Pratorean 1,234 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 The thing that has kept me away from 7.62x39 ARs is the shitty mags. This was an issue years ago but today the mags available are GTG. I have not had one problem with mags and the ASC 20 rounders work great. I also use modified Emags for a 5.45x39 variant and they work 100% but I only load 25. The mag pictured on the x39 is a modded mag that are no longer made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 didn't colt make a bastard a few years back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dieb4iwake 60 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 i want one and one of these lol http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/30/colt-ak-7-62x39-colt-ck901-released/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 rra makes pretty good stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 i want one and one of these lol http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/30/colt-ak-7-62x39-colt-ck901-released/ I hope Colt does bring it to the civvie market. I don't care to do business with Colt myself but that rifle looks all business. Not elegant. Not subtle. Like a brick in the face. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjgusmc21 850 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Oh man, something else I NEED now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) I can't really see the benefit in this gun over an AK Edited September 9, 2014 by SHOTGUN MESSIAH 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I can't really see the benefit in this gun over an AK And you drive a YUGO right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Chevy van, Indian motorcycle….. but still can't see this being better than an AK platform. If you want an AR..buy an AR…If you want an AK…buy an AK. I don't like my peanut butter mixed with chocolate. Edited September 9, 2014 by SHOTGUN MESSIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Well you can rebarrel it with out having to use a sledge hammer new bolt or carrier or firing pin or springs or stocks or handguards or sights or optics or rails or match triggers or ambi safetys or muzzle devices ect... just a call away. but i like AKs too ps thumbs up on the indian....times 10 if its an old one pre 1953 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 But can you roll in the mud with it and take it under a murky swamp and still bust off 100 rounds….. and with a 75 rnd drum you don't need no fancy optics….you will eventually hit your target. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 But can you roll in the mud with it and take it under a murky swamp and still bust off 100 rounds….. and with a 75 rnd drum you don't need no fancy optics….you will eventually hit your target. Sorry for thread drift Darth but I can roll in the swamp with an AR and it still works. and I have beta mags...100rnds and I dont need to transport a cheese sandwich in my receiver. Crazy inaccurate fire may eventually hit your target. but the target might just send one precise round back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yes let's turn this thread into another AR vs AK argument. Cause that hasn't been done nearly enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 its not......sgm and i just have to banter. its my fault for starting it sorry Darth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 If they did it right, it should be decently reliable since many of the AR-15s reliability issues are due to the magazine being straight for half of its length. DI is not as much of the problem as people make it seem. Should be a good option, provided AR users can figure out how to roll a magazine in instead of just kinda sorta jamming it in the hole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Yes let's turn this thread into another AR vs AK argument. Cause that hasn't been done nearly enough. It all good….Just as long as we don't get any AR vs. AK rap videos in the mix… Edited September 9, 2014 by SHOTGUN MESSIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 If they did it right, it should be decently reliable since many of the AR-15s reliability issues are due to the magazine being straight for half of its length. DI is not as much of the problem as people make it seem. Should be a good option, provided AR users can figure out how to roll a magazine in instead of just kinda sorta jamming it in the hole. Real gun people can pick up any gun off of any battlefield and be profecient Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I like the rock-n-lock mag design. It's slightly slower than a magwell but it's more positive. When you yank that mag back and hear that positive click you know you're gtg. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 What about 7.62x39? Isn't it a shitty caliber not worthy of being incorporated into anything other than a crudely made implement for ignorant peasants or camel fucking jihadis to wield? Sure seems like every other article I read in The Shotgun News these days is saying as much. How dare they ruin an implement of precision marksmanship like an AR by utilizing this bastard Russki round! Everyone know the 6.5 Grendel is the super round for todays tactical fanboy crowd, and arsenals worldwide should be dumping other calibers into the ocean and building Grendel rifles! No thanks....my AK and FAL will cover it all as far as I am concerned... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 never mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 You have a FAL in x39 No such animal exists to my knowledge. My point was if the AK cant handle the job the FAL can. An AR using a AK round is a answer to a question no one asked in my opinion... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I was being flippant, as 762x39 is not a ballistic wonder round. even the ruskies have abandoned it if favor of the ak74 round. as long a cheap spam cans of x39 are available, a new platform using cheap and VERY plentiful AK mags is a winner. And hand loaded x39 with quality projectiles and match barrels can be quite surprising. I'm going to order one, it will compliment my AK and share ammo and mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 My Sig 556R fills this role so I won't buy one. Unless they come out with a pistol. This with a 10" barrel and a SB15 not-a-stock would be da shit. As far as the 7.62x39 cartridge, there are loads that hit like a howitzer, and other loads that just make a 30 caliber hole through and through. I remain unconvinced of the superiority of the 5.45. The mere fact that a military adopts a new load doesn't mean it's a step up. Unfortunately the people making those decisions are not the ones fighting the wars. Boondoggles, greed, and hubris are the rule rather than the exception. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) I'm going to order one, it will compliment my AK and share ammo and mags. But will fire fire the foreign ammo? The worst gun I ever had that fired 7.62 x39 was a Ruger mini 30. That gun would not cycle foreign ammo at all. It would only shoot the expensive american ammo. I got rid of that jamin' POS as I wanted a rifle that wasn't so ammo picky….Got an AK and a SKS and feed thoes with whatever is available with no problems ever….. Im just more of a AK guy, the AR is too dainty of a gun for me. Grab, Smack, Yank and pull..BAM! Edited September 9, 2014 by SHOTGUN MESSIAH 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) I'm going to order one, it will compliment my AK and share ammo and mags. But will fire fire the foreign ammo? The worst gun I ever had that fired 7.62 x39 was a Ruger mini 30. That gun would not cycle foreign ammo at all. It would only shoot the expensive american ammo. I'm pretty sure I read something about this in American Rifleman. Someone complaining that the 7.62x39 ammo used in mini-30's shouldn't be steel because it all sucks and Ruger knows best. Hope this rifle isn't being presented like the Ruger. The fun in x39 calibers is the dirt cheap ammo using steel cases Edited September 10, 2014 by VR6Shooter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 What about 7.62x39? Isn't it a shitty caliber not worthy of being incorporated into anything other than a crudely made implement for ignorant peasants or camel fucking jihadis to wield? Sure seems like every other article I read in The Shotgun News these days is saying as much. How dare they ruin an implement of precision marksmanship like an AR by utilizing this bastard Russki round! Everyone know the 6.5 Grendel is the super round for todays tactical fanboy crowd, and arsenals worldwide should be dumping other calibers into the ocean and building Grendel rifles! No thanks....my AK and FAL will cover it all as far as I am concerned... Thre is a prototype AK chambered in that. Built by Krebs. Accuracy at 467 yards is amazing givin the fact that its an AK. Too bad there is only one. 6 inches using Wolf Gold 2.3 inches using Bills ammo (Alexander Arms). http://www.theakforum.net/forums/64-practical-kalashnikov/131629-what-aks-cant-shoot-you-dip-hit-krebs-6-5-grendel.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big John! 2,062 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Ok, I gotta ask... Why does everyone worry so much about long shots? Most of the shots us keyboard commando's will take in a SHTF situation will be less than 50 yards. If I wanted to actually kill someone at over 100 yards, I just may grab a different rifle. Help me understand guys... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 It's either 100, 300 or 1000 yards for me. 7.62 X39, .308, .50 BMG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Anything beyond 300 is a highly unusual situation and not part of my battle plan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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