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Im kinda curiouse, I also had to remove a fair amount of material from the fitting b location, i dont think it was excessive, but can i see a pic of the drum inserted into your gun from the side? i just want to see if you made it flush with the sort of flange that exists at the bottom of the feed tower.

Gosh, people are already complaining and they havent even paid in full yet! I complained a little on the first run but that was because i paid in full and then still waited 6 mos. this time they are bitching and there cards havent even been charged the 2nd half yet. hahah, DONT COMPLAIN OR ASK WHETHER THEY HAVE SHIPPED UNTIL YOUR CREDIT CARD HAS BEEN CHARGED THE 2ND HALF AND YOU HAVE WAITED FOR 6 MOS!!!! CJG

You will know when he is ready to start shipping. He will charge the other half of the balance to your credit card. He said he would do that, once he has all the parts in hand, so evidentally he is probably still waiting on some of the stuff, likely either the bodies or the metal hardware. Its probably go to be another few weeks at least. Mike is a good guy but the dates he gives out are tentative and often get moved to the right. just be patient You will get billed the 2nd have and get your drums before there is a ban. CJG

I think there can be such a thing as too much bad feedback, but as long as he still has peoples money and not issueing refunds, he should be bitched out to stear people away. Maybe that will motivate him to refund people there money. If he makes good or at least gives people there money back, then ya we should lay off. I also had a pretty bad experience with etac, he held my money for about 10 mos, then finally came through with my gun that really wasnt what i had ordered, he essentially made good with me kind of, but never gave me anything extra for having to wait the extra 8 mos. I guess

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Uhm, please read my post, i NEVER asked for 6. I just brought up that i wasnt clear on how it was going to be handled and that it affects people differently. Of course, if you have one gun and two drums, you wouldnt need more than one plug. Your situation is different than mine I think he did point out that it is a drum issue. my guns run fine with agp mags and any ammo out there, put the drum in with the same high brass loads and no go, therefor it is a drum issue and not a gun issue. your right he doesnt have to do it, but he did put out in writing formally that people would get a

I thought the email was good and lots of good details. But im not clear on exactly how it affects me on the drums I ordered in the first run. You said each order gets a free plug from the first run. Does this mean if you ordered two drums you get 2 plugs? or if you had one order of 6 drums you get 1? I ask because that kinda affects people differently depending on how they ordered their drums. I am happy with my drums and would not trade them for refunds or anything, but I did order 6 drums on 2 different orders and I own 6 saigas, originally it was put out each drum you bought, you w

1. I looked earlier today and there was still 50 or so drums left. he might add more but no one really knows how many more he may or may not list. As of right now my credit card has only been charged 50% and i placed my last order last week. During the first run he gave every one a heads up by putting out an announcement that he was going to charge the second half, i would think he will do the same this time. From his last update he said he would charge the second half once he has all the drums IN HAND and is shipping them, he doesn't have them yet so he isn't charging the full amount yet.

I think they just keep adding more, so they can control how fast they sell 50 or 100 at a time. I dont think anyone would cancel at this point. there was some people that cancelled on the first run, but i think it wasnt very many and those people waited for almost a year or more. This wait has been way shorter in comparison and with the ban looming, you would have to be crazy to cancel. CJG

How do you know he didnt form 1 it and engrave it himself with his city and state as perscribed by the ATF then send it to tony via a form 5 and have him convert it? that happens all the time and tony has encouraged people waiting in the long lines to do it. it makes for way quicker turn around time. CJG

Ok thats cool, but what about a similary unique mark on all guns that undergo full conversions even if they arent NFA? CJG

I would say, just be patient, If you just ordered in the last month or so, you likely wont have your drums for a couple more months. The first run sold less drums then the 2nd run im pretty sure, and I was in the last half of that batch and I still had to wait about 2.5 months from the time the first order shipped. It takes him a little while to work through the long list, and the 1st run actually seamed to be a couple different batches with the majority of orders being packed and shipped on weekends. So just wait it out, they will eventually end up in your hands. CJG

Thanks. Its really up to Tony whether he wants to take the time to do it or come up with some type of logo. But if i knew that it would have some sort of identifying stamp on it, i would start my form 1's now and put my city state on the guns, but if they wont be stamped by tony, then i will wait on the form 1's so they will say broken arrow on them. So basically the stamping would make everyone comfortable with doing their form 1's now and they wouldnt care about it saying broken arrow on them. CJG

I liked how my ETAC conversion is stamped with "ETAC" and also has the etac thunderbolt logo stamped on it. Difficult to copy and with the unique trigger guard will always be identifiable as an etac original. I think a TROMIX stamp with some sort of unique logo would be cool. That way down the road who ever has the privilege to own these fine weapons will always be able to identify the original source of the conversion. CJG

I'm 58x, good to hear that the list is getting burned up. I think i have 5 spots reserved. Standing by with $$ in hand, just waiting for my numbers to get pulled. Keep up the good work Tony, and keep knocking those numbers down. CJG

OK i might have a problem. I had two orders both of which were first run. one was for 6 drums and another was for 2 drums. I received the box today and it had the invoices for both orderes but only contained the six drums from the first order. I only received the one tracking number, is there another box somwhere with the two additional drums? order numbers are, ev-1942 and ev-2713. I sent an email mike, but im sure it will probably get lost in the slew of others asking about 2nd run issues. CJG

OK I have been a member since before this started so here are my 3 picks: 2810 4350 4430

I think we are still waiting on the mold adjustments, Pretty sure he hasn't started back making them again. CJG

So if the crime bill gets signed in the first 2-3 months, how does this affect the 2nd run of the drums? Because that would ban high capacity feeding devices too right? CJG

Just be patient, you still have 4 months before the 2nd run is even scheduled to start shipping and your number is a ways into it, so you likely have 5-6 months before your stuff ships, thats plenty of time to wait and get your address changed. CJG

194x, and no tracking yet. i think he is waiting on the molds again. CJG

PM sent. Hadley is a good business owner and has a good product here. This is way cooler than the old quad rails that are now selling for twice as much. thumbs up. CJG

here are some pics, since there really aren't hardly any out there.

There is a lip that fits up to the receiver, if yours is missing the back key PM me, it looks like this! Also if your sights are not going to allow you to use a Quad, then check out Chaos Tri-rail, I don't want you to fill like your stuck with something you can't use until you get your other gun back, so, if want, you can trade your Quad for a Tri and I'll refund the difference. Hope this helps! Thanks for the quick reply. I have the tri rail not the quad rail. Is the tri rail supposed to have that key? if so then mine doesn't. No worry on me using it, it will just go on my etac t

Kinda curiouse, did the molds get returned on time from the tooling company? CJG