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Ok lets set the record straight: $ 5800 was paid on the 7th april based on the fact that two competition guns could be build in 5 weeks.The guns had to be shipped ONLY by Continental Airlines as they currently are the only way to get guns to the UK & all this was explained prior to paying & agreed. Indeed all shipping was also paid upfront as part of the total. I needed the two guns here in the Uk by start of July for use in a series of Europen Tournaments ( 6 ) each had to be pre paid in entry fee & airline tickets & accomodation .. So dispite several promises that the guns

Once you get a date , im booking the flights for a small group of Brit shooters................... need to borrow /rent guns ,but have CASH & will need a stack of ammo !

http://www.kopelakis.com are the dealers in Greece. You need to check your local gun laws as sevral EU country's barrel lengths differ , think its 21" in Greece & Germany,24" in the Uk , 19" in some others ! Also note if you intend to compete in any practical ( ipsc ) shotgun matches you will not be able to take any gun into a country where their local law prohibits barrels that are to short .

Here's the link = http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/firearms_saiga12.htm Your pictures show the Spet 3 but with the cheaper basic stock. I can only comment on Tournament use iv seen , the Vepr 12 is based on the RPK rather than the AK & seems a nicer build/fit/finish also has extended safety & better grip. The current world champion ( German ) use's one.But as with all guns outside the USA the price is high near $ 2000 with two mags. drive to Russia ............. saiga's EXP 01 are $ 700 , Vepr's $ 900.

www.rusmilitary.com They sell that model as the spetsnaz 3 for £ 999 ( $ 1698 ) or Euro's E 1284 .......... to f**ing expensive. Uk model stock is fix & barrels are 24".Think you can have shorter in Portugal. The German importers www.waffenschumacher.com are a lot cheaper & also carry the much better Vepr 12. Im sure they export to any Dealer in your Country. Good luck with your purchase , hope to see you at some European Tournaments ??

Posted this over in the Tromix section but did not get an answer ................ Iv got a factory pistol grip saiga 12K ( legal here in the Uk ) with a welded open factory stock & would like to fit a Tromix stock, i understand that all/most of the fixing blocks are designed for the American converted saigas & so unsuitable for what just seems an AK receiver ?? Cobra or any one any ideas ?

Thanks a lot for posting the picture & the links.

Could any one post a picture of a Saiga 12 bolt thats been worked on to allow a reload on a closed bolt ?? Thanks a lot.

Wanted 3 agp saiga 12 mags ( gen 2 ) new or used ......... to send to UK , you may need to dis assemble to post ! Will advise best shipping method

Yeah kinda ironic that everybody here wants what you have, and you want what anybody here can get. It's a crazy world. Hey Bob if you think thats strange .............. over here competitors are cutting off magwells to gain the 2 extra rounds using the Agp mags over the factory 8's, & were not allowed folding stocks ( welded open ) & barrels have to be 24".

Just got a factory pistol grip saiga 12K ( legal here in the Uk ) & would like to remove the stock & replace with a Tromix one, what parts are required ?? Thanks.

Im looking to fly over for the next one with a small group of fellow trigger happy Brits.

A number of us "down south" Christchurch/Romsey/Aldershot - all Hampshire clubs. Still way over priced in the UK , several of us have tried the import way from USA builders as the standard models are not "out of the box " ready .................. i speak from regular competion use !

thats the mutt's nut's. what brand/where from - is the extended mag release ?? how do you find the Docter sight ? good luck at the comp.

First off before any one jumps on my case .............. I beleive that E-tac produce some of the best conversions , however my view is his customer service is lacking. My order was placed on 7th April for two full conversions paid in full, quoted delivery time was 5-6 weeks. Now maybe i should have known better but its now 22 weeks later.I have a number of one line emails from him stating "completion next week " spread over the whole period. Now this may seem ok to those of you who are used to waiting extended times but i bought these guns on the understanding that they would be ready for my

Yes im flying over for that one , Esteban over at Etac is sponsoring the UK Team .................

Saiga-SPETSNAZ-3 thats the model from the show. www.rusmilitary.com have them listed at a bargain price in the UK of 999 pounds thats about $ 1900 !! Just compared it side by side to a Vepr 12 , looks like that model saiga has some of the enhanced Vepr parts fitted. I know saiga own both factorys.

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The price in Germany is the same as the uk : $ 1800 Swat 12 .......... you then need " magwell special mags " at $ 160 each ! $ 1400 Will buy you a standard saiga with no magwell but a pistol grip & it takes Apg mags. So apart from the pistol grip its the same gun your paying $500 allready for . The VEPR 12 is very popular in Europe but they are $ 2000 each.

Old Skool kick ass AMT 44 Automag .......

The above home made chest rig allows a very quick reload on 1-2 rounds , & its this idea i want to carry over to a Saiga 12 rig. It will hold 6 mags upright facing forward each held by sprung C clips , with enough room behind each mag to get your thumb behind , simply grab , push out & up for a fast reload . For those shooting tube's still watch this reload ...... im sure a mag with practice could be quicker !! http://www.spitsheuvel.nl/patrick/adrie6rounds6targets.mpg

Before ordering online, does any one know if chest rigs like this Blackhawk strike with a built in row of open top mag pouches, will accept a saiga 12 mag ?? Cant find one over here in the Uk to look at first & there half price in the US.I know their designed for M16/Ar mags, but seems a good way to reload fast. Thanks a lot.

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Save your money ................... a bunch of us Brit shooters are heading over for that comp to kick your ass