Are You Ready For a New Cold War?

[Bayoupiper 738]

Or something similar to the Cuban Missile Crisis???

 

 

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Two Russian long-range bombers capable of carrying nuclear weapons will return to base from Venezuela in four days, the Russian Air Force was quoted by Interfax news agency as saying on Thursday.

 

The bombers, known in the West by the NATO codename "blackjacks," were not carrying nuclear weapons during the flight to South America and will return to Russia on September 15, Russian Air Force commander Vladimir Drik told Interfax.

 

"There were no nuclear weapons on board these planes," Drik was quoted as saying.

 

The visit by the Tu-160 bombers is a show of strength by newly confident Russia at a time of tension with the United States after the war in Georgia and due to U.S. plans for a missile defense shield in eastern Europe.

 

On Wednesday, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said the planes were in the South American oil-exporting nation to strengthen military ties and counter U.S. regional influences.

 

The planes arrived days after Russia and Venezuela said they would conduct joint naval exercises in the Caribbean later this year involving a nuclear-powered Russian battleship.

 

 

 

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080911/wl_nm/...ia_venezuela_dc

[MD_Willington 11]

It's a good way to keep the American economy down.. its coming.

 

The good thing is this, at least the world is polarized, with two camps...

 

We didn't have all this terrorist crap back then...

[Bean.223 365]

The whole thing smells like yesterdays onion soup to me. I bet they did drop off a tac nuke or two.

[Vultite 57]

well, someone close is right, last year the russians made a vacuum bomb, like our MOAB but much larger as far as blast goes, they claim atom bomb like damage without radiation, and i believe it after seeing their test. somewhere on youtube or splodetv you can find it, neato and scary stuff...(MOAB=11 MT blast, Russians 44 MT blast) i believe it was posted on reuters 9-11-07 now that i think about it

Edited September 12, 2008 by Vultite

[waltham_41 52]

well, someone close is right, last year the russians made a vacuum bomb, like our MOAB but much larger as far as blast goes, they claim atom bomb like damage without radiation, and i believe it after seeing their test. somewhere on youtube or splodetv you can find it, neato and scary stuff...(MOAB=11 MT blast, Russians 44 MT blast) i believe it was posted on reuters 9-11-07 now that i think about it

 

 

Errrr I am going to assume that you meant KT blasts instead of MT blasts. Even at kilotons those are some monster blasts!

[KrisFox 69]

well, someone close is right, last year the russians made a vacuum bomb, like our MOAB but much larger as far as blast goes, they claim atom bomb like damage without radiation, and i believe it after seeing their test. somewhere on youtube or splodetv you can find it, neato and scary stuff...(MOAB=11 MT blast, Russians 44 MT blast) i believe it was posted on reuters 9-11-07 now that i think about it

There is also some discussion that the blast was fibbed a bit.

 

The argument is.

 

Based on the volume of the bomb casing, there wasn't enough room for enough conventional explosive to make a 44MT blast.

 

The Russkies may have already had explosive in place at ground 0.

 

 

 

Is the theory true or not? I have no idea. But they do have a history of making really big bombs.

[Reverendfranz 160]

history they do have

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f7_1212266081

 

The Tzar Bomba was dropped October 23, 1961, at less than 50% of its designed destructive ability, they accomplished this by dampening the third stage of its Fission, fusion, fission design, by replacing the uranium fusion tamper (which amplifies the reaction) with one made of lead to eliminate fast fission by the fusion neutrons, and reducing the power of the original version from an expected 100+MT bomb to a mere 57MT, the largest nuclear explosion ever detonated. If detonated at full scale the yield of 100 megatons (100Mt--equal to one billion tons of TNT). The explosive force of this bomb would have been approximately 6,500 times the 15-16 kiloton bomb detonated at Hiroshima. It would have increased the world's total fission fallout since the invention of the atomic bomb by 25%. Even its scaled down version approached the destructive force of ALL the ordinance dropped in WWII, combined. Rumors to this day state that russia's adherence to the doctrine of MADD, or mutually assured destruction did not end with Tzar Bomba, but continued to an even larger, untested device.

 

any link to this vacuum test?

[Bvamp 604]

the tzar bomba

 

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/TsarBomba.html

 

 

 

 

 

Venezuela

[G O B 3,516]

Putin was head of the KGB. Cheney was head of the CIA. So who knows WHAT is REALLY going on ?????????????

[Reverendfranz 160]

Putin was head of the KGB. Cheney was head of the CIA. So who knows WHAT is REALLY going on ?????????????

 

Actually Cheney was the Secretary of Defense, and Putin merely worked various positions in first the fifth and finally the first directorate of the KGB, the position he held previous to his resignation in 1991 was primarily an academic one. Neither man was director of either intelligence service, though they may be evil sumnabatches notwithstanding.

[WardenWolf 6]

Hmm, Russian nuclear-powered battleship. Sounds like they got one of their Kirovs fixed up.

[uzitiger 193]

The US Navy could easily take out the Russian fleet then their show of force would go down to the bottom of the Atlantic along with RasPutin's arrogance.

[sovbez 11]

to uzitiger: man, do you really want the hot war? Install Flashpoint and play then. The US or Russia can reduce to ashes not just the someone's fleet, but the whole world.

Edited September 29, 2008 by sovbez

[kg4chm 0]

Russia also tested an ICBM a couple of weeks ago. There have been several reports of UN planes having to escort Russian planes away from airspace they shouldnt be in. Not good. Then factor in Russia and China helping Iran with their nuclear program, Iran being another country that hates the USA.

Looks like big time trouble in the future for us when you look at all of the problems in combination..........economy issues, energy issues and what our enemies are doing currently. Better stock up.

[Eric Pate 478]

The Tzar Bomba was dropped October 23, 1961, at less than 50% of its designed destructive ability, they accomplished this by dampening the third stage of its Fission, fusion, fission design, by replacing the uranium fusion tamper (which amplifies the reaction) with one made of lead to eliminate fast fission by the fusion neutrons, and reducing the power of the original version from an expected 100+MT bomb to a mere 57MT, the largest nuclear explosion ever detonated. If detonated at full scale the yield of 100 megatons (100Mt--equal to one billion tons of TNT). The explosive force of this bomb would have been approximately 6,500 times the 15-16 kiloton bomb detonated at Hiroshima. It would have increased the world's total fission fallout since the invention of the atomic bomb by 25%. Even its scaled down version approached the destructive force of ALL the ordinance dropped in WWII, combined. Rumors to this day state that russia's adherence to the doctrine of MADD, or mutually assured destruction did not end with Tzar Bomba, but continued to an even larger, untested device.

 

Its still a firecracker compared to The Big G. Thats right, there are plans on paper for a ONE GIGATON bomb! God willing it will never be made because it would essentially end life on earth. (Even the roaches.)