Bounce 0 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 anyone shoot the drum with a foregrip? how is the "fit&feel"?? does your foregrip arm interfere any with the drum? I've been browsing the s12 pics and I have not seen any Saigas modded with an original vertical wooden foregrip?? I'm thinking about modding mine with it.... anyone seen one already built? thanks..B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Franky 2 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 No, but I'm going to do the same thing as for as getting a Romy vertgrip and modding it. I can't quite reach around the drum so easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigcraig 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I will be running a VFG once I get my DPH forearm in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GLOCKshooter 1 Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I am using a LaRue F.U.G. I am extremely pleased with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot 52 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 It doesn't feel right with the drum. Thats my opinion. Now, if there was an adjustable grip that rotated to the side for use with the drum, that would be good. Oh, and +1 on the LaRue FUG... Got one on my AR and its the tits! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wakko 10 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Can you put a side mounted grip? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigcraig 0 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Can you put a side mounted grip? Sure, if you have a railed forearm. Thats is where a LaRue FUG would come in handy as it has a QD lever, so you could move it from the bottom rail to the side rail when you shoot your drum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TronJohn 1 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Can you do a foregrip on an 8" barrel like an Tromix S-17 and also have drum? If not, what is a shortest barrel length that would work in a set up like that? I am not too hot on the foregrips as of right now... do you guys suggest them for a 20 round drum setup? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 anyone shoot the drum with a foregrip? how is the "fit&feel"?? does your foregrip arm interfere any with the drum? I've been browsing the s12 pics and I have not seen any Saigas modded with an original vertical wooden foregrip?? I'm thinking about modding mine with it.... anyone seen one already built? thanks..B A vertical foregrip will make the drum more comfortable for most people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Can you do a foregrip on an 8" barrel like an Tromix S-17 and also have drum? If not, what is a shortest barrel length that would work in a set up like that? I am not too hot on the foregrips as of right now... do you guys suggest them for a 20 round drum setup? You can use even the longest vertical forgrips on a 8 inch S-17 and be just fine with the drums. I'm not to big on vertical foregrips either. But they do make the gun more comfortable when using the drums. I've been telling myself that I need to make myself comfortable using the vertical foregrip. I'm comfortable with your typical hand guard but a vertical grip is better. You increase weapon control with a vertical foregrip as well as speed up target acquisition. Really we should all make ourselves comfortable with both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joelrod47 373 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The VFG makes the shorty much more comfortable to shoot with the drum............... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigBump 1 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Can you do a foregrip on an 8" barrel like an Tromix S-17 and also have drum? If not, what is a shortest barrel length that would work in a set up like that? I am not too hot on the foregrips as of right now... do you guys suggest them for a 20 round drum setup? You can use even the longest vertical forgrips on a 8 inch S-17 and be just fine with the drums. I'm not to big on vertical foregrips either. But they do make the gun more comfortable when using the drums. I've been telling myself that I need to make myself comfortable using the vertical foregrip. I'm comfortable with your typical hand guard but a vertical grip is better. You increase weapon control with a vertical foregrip as well as speed up target acquisition. Really we should all make ourselves comfortable with both. Off topic, but... Is that the Ohio Rapid Fire mat your shotgun's under? Great place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TronJohn 1 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Mike, that is an 8" Tromix S-17 right? Doesnt your wrist have to "wrap around" the drum to get to the foregrip? That to me would make it feel uncomfortable and awkward. I think having a grip on the side would be the best... but that wouldnt be good for overall handling as it would get in teh way. You could always get an grip that locks and unlocks easy to move around as needed. But i like to "set and forget" my weapons and dont like the idea of always having to move a fore grip around, another reason i would just rather not have one. But how easy is it to hold an 8" shorty like that while youre popping off 20 semi rounds from the drum? That can be dangerous on a barrel that short cant it? Would it almost be a def must to have a foregrip on an 8" shorty with a drum? Edited December 11, 2008 by TronJohn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 If you have problems, Krebs sells an adapter that allows you to mount a grip off of a SIDE rail and there are adapters that let you mount VFGs at an angle. The Krebs part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gothmog 24 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I use http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/pro...301&s=51210 it clears real well on my chaos quad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Surly 11 Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I'm not too hot on the ideas of using a VFG, but I'm thinking the S-12 will be getting one in the near future. Although having gone out this last weekend and running a value pack plus through it (quick session), the only time it felt awkward was when I would first start shooting. After that, I was more concerned with the woodie from being able to dump out 20 rounds of 12ga without reloading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TronJohn 1 Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I'm just wondering if there is too much kickback, tipping the barrel up on a small 8". I think a VFG would allow you to stablize it a lot more. But how bad is the kickback/up on an 8"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
britch999 1 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Drum is much easier to shoot with a foregrip. I also switched back to the factory handguard and installed the rail on that because it was a little longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TronJohn 1 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 (edited) Can you do a foregrip on an 8" barrel like an Tromix S-17 and also have drum? If not, what is a shortest barrel length that would work in a set up like that? I am not too hot on the foregrips as of right now... do you guys suggest them for a 20 round drum setup? You can use even the longest vertical forgrips on a 8 inch S-17 and be just fine with the drums. I'm not to big on vertical foregrips either. But they do make the gun more comfortable when using the drums. I've been telling myself that I need to make myself comfortable using the vertical foregrip. I'm comfortable with your typical hand guard but a vertical grip is better. You increase weapon control with a vertical foregrip as well as speed up target acquisition. Really we should all make ourselves comfortable with both. Hey mike, that isnt the normal S-17 is it? That seems to have a longer hangguard... so its the S-07? I was told if I went with the S-17, the foregrip would need to be modified to accept a VFG. I am kind of thinking of putting a collapasable foregrip on the side like a hammer drill... what do you guys think? I dont belive you can add horizontal grip onto that particular Tromix grip to get that hammer drill setup, even with modifications can you? I may have to get an entirely different foregrip then other than the one above, one that has rail already there in place on the side. Any one know of any cool looking foregrips with rail already? Edited December 26, 2008 by TronJohn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 How about a vertical foregrip that could be clamped around the barrel in front of the gas regulator? Anyone know of anything like that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TronJohn 1 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 If you have problems, Krebs sells an adapter that allows you to mount a grip off of a SIDE rail and there are adapters that let you mount VFGs at an angle. The Krebs part. Hey this may work... but how does it attach to the foregrip? Do you have to remove the normal forgrip? Can this be added on to a Tromix S-17 or S-07 like Mikes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 I can see somebody coming up with a VFG that easily adjusts from vertical to 45 degrees (maybe even to horizontal) with a small Ace folder type hinge. I think it would be a big seller as more drums are sold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigcraig 0 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 (edited) I can see somebody coming up with a VFG that easily adjusts from vertical to 45 degrees (maybe even to horizontal) with a small Ace folder type hinge. I think it would be a big seller as more drums are sold. Yankee Hill Machine makes a VFG that folds. Let me look for it. Here ya go, http://www.yankeehillmachine.com/store/grips.html Edited December 27, 2008 by bigcraig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 I can see somebody coming up with a VFG that easily adjusts from vertical to 45 degrees (maybe even to horizontal) with a small Ace folder type hinge. I think it would be a big seller as more drums are sold. Yankee Hill Machine makes a VFG that folds. Let me look for it. Here ya go, http://www.yankeehillmachine.com/store/grips.html I've seen those but they only seem to fold forward and back rather than out to the side(s), which is what you would want for use with a drum. And I think no more than 45 degress out for any kind of extended firing. We've obviously got some talented fabricators making parts here. Hopefully a large enough market will accumulate to encourage developement of something like this. For me, being able to make quick adjustments from vertcal to 45 degrees when going from mags to drums would be key, Thus my folding stock type hinge idea. Of course the stock hinge has only one locking position and this would need at least two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavePAL84 1 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I use a stubby grip. Very comfortable and doesn't get in way of the drum or AGP mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TronJohn 1 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 does anyone offer a collapsable VFG that just does 45*? I think that is the best of both worlds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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