vbrtrmn 167 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Pretty sweet. Is Glock from Smyrna TN or Smyrna GA? That would be awesome if the could sell some G18's in TN, assuming that would be exempt from fed regulations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaPD 408 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) Elvis C, Glock is here in Smyrna, Georgia. Hopefully this state will consider something like this in the future as well. Edited May 8, 2009 by GeorgiaPD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wotan1105 7 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) Man I can't wait til October, looks like Montana is going to be the first to challenge the Feds on this, their law got signed by the Gov already goes into effect in October and they plan on challening the courts on it ASAP to get it right up to the Supreme Court before Obammy has a chance of filling it up with more libtards. If this case wins, I see HUGE repercussions. And not just firearms, if they can assert their states rights in this matter, that leaves the door open to challenge them on practically everything. If it's not specifically laid out in the Constitution, it's up for the States, and the people to decide. Bet Obammy didn't think he'd have to contend with that his first term. Go Tennessee! Edited May 8, 2009 by Wotan1105 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 As soon as I can retire (end of next year with any luck) I am moving to Tennessee! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greenego 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 As soon as I can retire (end of next year with any luck) I am moving to Tennessee! We will welcome you with open arms. TX is also looking at a law like this. I saw this on Glenn Beck Friday. There is a group trying to get each state to pass a bill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderchild 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Elvis C, Glock is here in Smyrna, Georgia. Hopefully this state will consider something like this in the future as well. It's my understanding that we are Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyhoundman 0 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 I am going to say be careful what you wish for right now the states are trying to assert their CONTROL over gun rights you MIGHT end up with regulations on guns and ammo that are even more restrictive than they currently are at the federal level. Especially when you consider how easily public opinion can changed given proper media coverage and funding by gun rights opposition groups. It would be much easier to pick off the states one at a time rather than all at once. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFox 69 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 I am going to say be careful what you wish for right now the states are trying to assert their CONTROL over gun rights you MIGHT end up with regulations on guns and ammo that are even more restrictive than they currently are at the federal level. Especially when you consider how easily public opinion can changed given proper media coverage and funding by gun rights opposition groups. It would be much easier to pick off the states one at a time rather than all at once. Someone doesn't read the content of the proposed bills. They ALL spell out LESS restrictive guidelines than the federal laws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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railman1 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Jeff Davis once said that he had no doubt that a future generation would take up the cause again..Because it was right. Wherever the President and "Marsa Robert" are tonight..they must be smiling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderchild 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Jeff Davis once said that he had no doubt that a future generation would take up the cause again..Because it was right. Wherever the President and "Marsa Robert" are tonight..they must be smiling. Ditto Sharpe45 but "dat be Marse Robert" here in the South Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rangerdavid 6 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 What a place Tennesse is, no state income tax, and now non-gov regulated gun? If only it were to include the full auto rifles, I would probably move 18 miles up the road to tennessee. I do not, however, believe these statutes will survive the strict scrutiny of appellate review. The phrase of "in or affecting interstate commerce" doesn't just mean the guns. It means the material that goes into making the guns, how they are transported, what taxes are paid, advertising, etc................. all of which is in interstate commerce, so hence my disbelief, only if it were true. I would love to move just down the road and buy a new, fully auto M4........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackback 135 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 (edited) What a place Tennesse is, no state income tax, and now non-gov regulated gun? If only it were to include the full auto rifles, I would probably move 18 miles up the road to tennessee. I do not, however, believe these statutes will survive the strict scrutiny of appellate review. The phrase of "in or affecting interstate commerce" doesn't just mean the guns. It means the material that goes into making the guns, how they are transported, what taxes are paid, advertising, etc................. all of which is in interstate commerce, so hence my disbelief, only if it were true. I would love to move just down the road and buy a new, fully auto M4........... For something as important and fundamental as our arms we will find a way to make them wholly same state made. They did this back in the 18th and 19th centuries with their arms and today with CNC machines and such things we can sure as hell do it now. Prime example of a mass produced firearm by a"local" populace >>>> Sten MkII. Edited May 11, 2009 by 690gr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 interesting, so since when does state law trump federal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 interesting, so since when does state law trump federal? All states are in a UNION based on the CONSTITUTION. The Constitution limits the powers of the FED and reserves all other abilities to make laws to the people or to the states. The FED has no legal standing for MOST of the laws they make but the states won't fight them. Now we're seeing a little bit of fighting. I say GOOD! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cellsworth 21 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 interesting, so since when does state law trump federal? All states are in a UNION based on the CONSTITUTION. The Constitution limits the powers of the FED and reserves all other abilities to make laws to the people or to the states. The FED has no legal standing for MOST of the laws they make but the states won't fight them. Now we're seeing a little bit of fighting. I say GOOD! +1 SaigaNoobie! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 interesting, so since when does state law trump federal? All states are in a UNION based on the CONSTITUTION. The Constitution limits the powers of the FED and reserves all other abilities to make laws to the people or to the states. The FED has no legal standing for MOST of the laws they make but the states won't fight them. Now we're seeing a little bit of fighting. I say GOOD! If I'm understanding this correctly (Big if.), this is essentially the same situation as when Cali legalized medical weed. Its legal on the state level but theres nothing stopping the fed from coming down like a hammer on a bunch of geriatric joint-puffing cancer patients. My understanding was that Montana was trying to provoke just such an instance so that they could put their full legal muscle behind the first properly qualified individual, just like what happend with Heller. Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFox 69 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 The South will rise again. Starting with Montana... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Modiano 5 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) i forgot who, but some important person said the most important, yet trampled constitutional amendment was the 10th amendment...The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Edited May 12, 2009 by Modiano Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frost 0 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Y'all can count SC in... http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess118_2009-2010/bills/794.htm Edited May 12, 2009 by Frost Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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