MikeD 541 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Eric, or any one that knows him... I received an email from this guy and I tried to respond to it but it is being returned as undeliverable. He bought a threadless gas plug from a shop local to him. He tried to take it back but the shop wouldn't swap it out for him (do you believe that shit) and said all sales are final!!! Told Eric he need to contact me. Eric did but I can get a message back to him... If your out there Eric, check your email address. Send me another email and include an alternate form of contact as well. Or you can send the plug back to the PO Box list on my site, www.mdarms.com. If you send it back please make sure to include a legible letter with it telling who you are and your shipping info. Sorry your local dealer is a douche bag! I wouldn't spend another dime there if I were you! 22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) ^ Talk about great customer service! Edited October 9, 2009 by post-apocalyptic 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Bump 17 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 He tried that bullshit with me. Claimed his Tromix FCG had a bad hammer and the disconector spring broke. I sent him a new hammer and spring. Then he claimed he didn't get the spring and not only the hammer was bad, but so was the trigger. Then he tells me that he doesn't have the bad parts, since they were all shit, he just threw them all out. He was trying to scam me for an entire FCG. His name is now on the Tromix Black List. Below are the e-mails. Tony Rumore Tromix Corp From: Eric Underwood [mailto:underwoodammo@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:11 AM To: rumore@tromix.com Subject: issue with product Hello my name is Eric and I recently purchased a Tromix Saiga 12 Fire Control Group from a local dealer. I am in the market for about 5 since I have a lot of saiga's (mine and friends) to convert. I bought one to see how it would work out, as I have heard so many great things about your products. I had two issues with this product, as I'm hoping it was just a bad batch seeing as I need more. 1st the disconnecter spring broke, very easly (way to easy for a disconnecter spring. 2nd the hammer looked like It was sanded down, and a shitty job at that as well. No smooth surface and just didn't look good/right. I tried to take it back to guy I bought it from and he said sales are final and to contact you. I really need 5 more but am questioning purchasing more because of my bad experience. Not sure what I can do from here but any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks Eric, Give me your address and I will send you a new hammer and spring. That’s just the standard warranty for all Tromix products. Tony Rumore Tromix Corp From: Eric Underwood [mailto:underwoodammo@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:36 PM To: Tony Rumore Subject: Re: issue with product Thank you Tony I do appreciate it. My address is as follows: Eric Underwood XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Ave Caldwell, ID 83605 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Tony Rumore <rumore@tromix.com> wrote: Going out today, US mail. Tony got it in the mail but it didn't come with Tromix disconnecter spring and Tromix Shepherds crook/trigger? I bought the whole kit. The trigger was a little damaged too so I threw it all away. I so very much appreciate the hammer but it didn't come with the rest of the stuff. I'm sorry to be a thorn in your ass but the hammer alone does me no good. thanks again Tony. Sounds like you’re bullshiting me now. Tony From: Eric Underwood [mailto:underwoodammo@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:35 AM To: Tony Rumore Subject: Re: issue with product I figured you'd say that Tony, I sersiouly threw it away when you said you were replacing because I thought you were replacing the kit, not just the part. It was my fault for assuming, I was just hoping you were going to send out the whole kit I bought. I understand if you can't/won't but the hammer alone doesn't do me any good at this point. Thanks Tony. 24 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
r40734 19 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Hey, I threw out a pair of Tromix S17's because they were the wrong color and a dozen of Mike's drums because they had the wrong back plate installed and wouldn't lock into the gun properly. Can you guys send me some new ones? Please? Seriously, who throws away parts that can still be returned, or even used for something else? I bought a trigger guard made by one of our vendors on this site (and sold by another vendor) that was obviously used and bent with a pair of pliers. I really didn't feel like going through the trouble of shipping parts back and forth, plus I saw that as an opportunity to use it as a custom trigger guard. (it still looked like shit after I was done modifying it...) Tony, since the hammer and spring was no good to the guy without the rest of the kit, did he send it back to you? Edited October 9, 2009 by r40734 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 He tried that bullshit with me. Claimed his Tromix FCG had a bad hammer and the disconector spring broke. I sent him a new hammer and spring. Then he claimed he didn't get the spring and not only the hammer was bad, but so was the trigger. Then he tells me that he doesn't have the bad parts, since they were all shit, he just threw them all out. He was trying to scam me for an entire FCG. His name is now on the Tromix Black List. Below are the e-mails. Tony Rumore Tromix Corp Some fucktards need to have a bat taken to the back of their head. 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 It's a shame you can't run an honest business without people trying to take advantage of your kindness and screw you over for having good customer service. It makes me wonder how much "free" stuff this guy has gotten. 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 . . . And I'm guessing by the -1's on Tony's, Gary's and my post, and the +1's on Mike's posts, that he (or a friend) has damn well found this! Someone doesn't like having their cards called when they bluff. Douche bag . . . 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 I noticed that and cancelled it out, Raoul. 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Thanks Post! But I would bet you've got a -1 coming for that, so I'll just give you a one-up on that! 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Awww fuck it! +1's for everybody! 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Thanks Post! But I would bet you've got a -1 coming for that, so I'll just give you a one-up on that! +1 to that! 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Thanks Raoul. I guess "Eric Underwood" or whatever buddy of his has found this thread and decided to maliciously misuse the feedback system, (to attack those who're calling him on his scam), doesn't know that we watch each others' backs around here. Edited October 9, 2009 by post-apocalyptic 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Awww fuck it! +1's for everybody! Just did the same.. gave another +1 to everyone on the thread. 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Thanks Raoul. I guess "Eric Underwood" or whatever buddy of his has found this thread and decided to maliciously misuse the feedback system, (to attack those who're calling him on his scam), doesn't know that we watch each others' backs around here. Yeah, this is not the place to be starting shit. You WILL get you ass handed to you. Albeit in written (typed) form . . . 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
camon 233 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Posting for +1!!! Wait... I guess I should contribute too. From Tony's post this guy either has horrible reading skills or is scamming. Tony specifically states that he was going to send a hammer and spring then Eric says he was expecting the whole kit. smellslikebullshit.jpg 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
presto_z 125 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) +1 for this thread and everyone in it, i hate scammers and hopefully all our vendors will see this and be on the lookout for this Dbag. Hopefully he hasnt taken advantage of any of our other sponsors. Edited October 10, 2009 by presto_z 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clifton 354 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Eric Underwood... Better stick to Gunpoker,,, Tac 47 will not Sell to him,,, 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
r40734 19 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Eric Underwood? http://www.rohshop.org/acatalog/info_pc_eric_u_chroma.html 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 . . . And I'm still dispersing the +1's like they're candy . . . Eric Underwood... Better stick to Gunpoker,,, Tac 47 will not Sell to him,,, Eric Underwood? http://www.rohshop.o...c_u_chroma.html :haha2: 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 This is all pretty slick.... I'm continuing to award points as well. 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaPD 408 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) Tony, I'll be flying into Boise next week. I'm pretty sure that I could find his shop since Caldwell is a small town. Would it be inappropriate to wear my Tromix shirt while I did this? Worse if I get pictures being thrown out while wearing the shirt? And one more question..Does making the blacklist move a person closer to the front or closer to the rear..I know, I know, I'm a smartass. Edited October 10, 2009 by GeorgiaPD 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 It would be kind of nice if the Mods could just ban his IP so we can be done with him. I thought that it was pretty decent of Tony to mask out his address. I doubt I would not have done so... 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Here is the email he sent me. He sent it about an hour after he emailed Tony. It was from a different email address but almost an identical story. What a lowlife scum bag! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: issue with improved gas plug for saiga 12 From: "Eric Underwood" <underwood@gmail.com> Date: Mon, September 21, 2009 1:24 am To: <info@mdarms.com> I recently bought this product from a local dealer as I heard that your products are wonderful and I had to try it. When I tried to put the gas plug on the weapon it wouldn't thread and I took a closer look and the threading was barely there. It didn't look like it was filed, just barely any threading (almost smooth). I was disappointed and felt cheated out of my money and went back to the place I bought it. They said all sales are final but I should contact you about this. I wanted to purchase more for my other project saiga12's but am affraid that i'll have the same issue. I'm hoping this is a lemon as I hear many good things about your products at MDArms. I'm not sure what more I can do but any assistance would be helpful, thanks. I am updating because this loser has just asked for our help in this thread! http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=50602 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ram123 17 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 wow, I've bought reman ammo from this guy on gunbroker. I have yet to shoot it but I guess I should try it out soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 wow, I've bought reman ammo from this guy on gunbroker. I have yet to shoot it but I guess I should try it out soon. What is his gunbroker user name? I am betting it has "Underwood" in it! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Mods: This "Underwood" clown needs his IP blocked! Kudos to Mike and Tony! ...patiently waiting on double stack mags to become available! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loveless 7 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I can't believe this guy has been trying to scam parts out of respected business members so "HE" could do the conversion (he told Tony that "HE" was going to do multiple conversions) and then he asked for advice on the board of whom to send his 19" S12 so someone else could to do the actual conversion with the scammed parts! +1's for everyone from me! I have dealt with Mike personally (3 drums with a fourth still to come) and he's a standup guy. I hope to deal with Tony in the future and I feel bad he lost that hammer to this douche bag. I hope no other business members get scammed by these idiots. For people that have bought from Scammerwood in Idaho before, you should email him saying your ammo was defective and ask for him to send you more, and that you tossed out the bad ammo so you can't send it back to prove it's bad... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gibbles 23 Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 wow... and I see his post asking everyone to forgive him... so here is a nice bump for a liar... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Racer 27 37 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 wow... and I see his post asking everyone to forgive him... so here is a nice bump for a liar... Its not there anymore, it went down hill in a quick hurry. He's got 2 names here armyunderwood and armyunderwood81. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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