jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=13053&posts=1&start=1 Google this and it is everywhere. Disappointing to say the least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gothmog 24 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 As much as a lot of people in the state of Nevada hate Harry Reid, he is a member of the NRA and is an avid hunter. He did put in a lot of work and lobbying for this shooting park, it is a wonderfull place to shoot. So, even if you don't like him, he has done a few good things for our state. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Donkismash 81 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Once again the NRA shows they are for compromise...just more politicians IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I've never sent the NRA money, and will not start anytime soon. They have a disturbing focus on hunting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I've never sent the NRA money, and will not start anytime soon. They have a disturbing focus on hunting. I am glad to see I'm not alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Donkismash 81 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Barret stands out to me as an avid 2nd supporter....not the NRA also Fuck Ruger for the AWB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 If you do not reward GOOD behavior, and just blindly reward a single Party - you are just throwing your efforts away. All Repugniticans are NOT our friends, and all Demorats are not our ENEMIES! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Donkismash 81 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 If you do not reward GOOD behavior, and just blindly reward a single Party - you are just throwing your efforts away. All Repugniticans are NOT our friends, and all Demorats are not our ENEMIES! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 +1 while it is strange to see the NRA praising someone like Reid, you have to keep in mind the NRA's focus is guns, gun rights and hunting. They are a group that lobbies only for this single set of issues, so regardless of someone stance on healthcare, economy, war, etc. if they are a friend of guns they're a friend of the NRA. It's simply not their job to worry about other issues. That said I do think SAF/GOA are doing a better job as they brought bother Heller and McDonald to the Supreme Court. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I thought it was pretty fucked up how the NRA completely ignored the Olofson case. GOA was all over it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I thought it was pretty fucked up how the NRA completely ignored the Olofson case. GOA was all over it. yes! NRA did not even want to bring Heller to the Supreme Court as well either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Vigilante 14 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 One has to look at the "total" picture of Reid's record-not just his record on gun control. On the rest of his record he fails miserably, at least as far as I am concerned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Reid is a great guy on a lot of levels. I wish he was for single-payer health care and the de-funding of the CIA, but nobody is perfect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 One has to look at the "total" picture of Reid's record-not just his record on gun control. On the rest of his record he fails miserably, at least as far as I am concerned. The National Rifle Association of America is an American non-partisan, non-profit (501©(4)) organization which lists as its goals the protection of the Second Amendment of the United States Bill of Rights and the promotion of firearm ownership rights as well as marksmanship, firearm safety, and the protection of hunting and self-defense in the United States. As far as the rest of his record is concerned, it's simply not their job to worry about that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Krom 36 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I agree w/ GOB. The NRA is just doing it's job and I will continue to support them. We need friends of the 2nd on all sides of the aisle. Harry Reed will and should be held accountable for the rest of his non gun/hunting policy by his constituents not the NRA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) How can Wayne LaPierre praise Harry Reid when he is preparing anti gun laws as we are posting comments? Is he ignoring the UN Gun Ban Treaty? The NRA has a history of compromising with anti gun laws. They were nowhere to be found in 1989 when California passed the first 'assault weapon' bans nor were they in Cincinnati to lobby against the same bans there when my friend called them to help him against these laws. I never heard the NRA condemn the 1968 Gun Control Act for its Nazi roots either. Politicians being NRA members doesn't mean anything! Remember George Bush Sr. (an NRA life member) signed an executive order in 1990 banning the import of so called assualt weapons. Politicians will join the NRA to get your vote but that doesn't mean they won't stab you in the back. Edited April 4, 2010 by uzitiger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Donkismash 81 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 How can Wayne LaPierre praise Harry Reid when he is preparing anti gun laws as we are posting comments? Is he ignoring the UN Gun Ban Treaty? The NRA has a history of compromising with anti gun laws. They were nowhere to be found in 1989 when California passed the first 'assault weapon' bans nor were they in Cincinnati to lobby against the same bans there when my friend called them to help him against these laws. I never heard the NRA condemn the 1968 Gun Control Act for its Nazi roots either. Politicians being NRA members doesn't mean anything! Remember George Bush Sr. (an NRA life member) signed an executive order in 1990 banning the import of so called assualt weapons. Politicians will join the NRA to get your vote but that doesn't mean they won't stab you in the back. yep +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Call me paranoid, but Harry's healthcare bill will ultimately lead to more gun legislation. We will ultimately "pay" for the victims of gun crimes as a "health issue". They will make an argument that gun violence is a leading cause of death and injury and the responsible party is law-abiding gun owners. So they will attempt to ban and at minimum institute further taxes on ammo and firearms to "pay" for the damage they cause. Harry Reid is not a friend to people that are pro-freedom which is why I support the whole Constitution and not just one Amendment. Just because he owns a shotgun doesn't mean he will vote to ensure ours are protected (remember that he and his family don't have to abide by the same healthcare rules that he's making us abide by). And Dina Titus is a carpetbagging socialist cunt about as far left as Nancy Pelosi. She doesn't support our Constitution either! I know this is a revelation for some of you, but politicians do things that they don't believe in to get votes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackback 135 Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=13053&posts=1&start=1 Google this and it is everywhere. Disappointing to say the least. NRA is a single issue organization. Since way more Republicans/Conservatives/Libertarians are pro 2A on average than Democrats/Liberals/Socialists it can seem at times that they are firmly in the camp of the former. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackback 135 Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 (edited) Call me paranoid, but Harry's healthcare bill will ultimately lead to more gun legislation. We will ultimately "pay" for the victims of gun crimes as a "health issue". They will make an argument that gun violence is a leading cause of death and injury and the responsible party is law-abiding gun owners. So they will attempt to ban and at minimum institute further taxes on ammo and firearms to "pay" for the damage they cause. Not with this Supreme Court or the 41 members (thank you Mass voters) in minority of the Senate, our truly last lines of defense until 11/2/2010. The socialists shot their Reconcilation wad on Obamacare, and you can only use it once per year. So it would take some doing to ram anything further down the taxpayers throats although I remain vigilant for the attempt. Edited April 6, 2010 by 690gr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robert-laws 0 Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Thanks for sharing the info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 (edited) Looks to me that things are fine and dandy in Wayne's World from the video below. It is my personal belief that the mission of the Second Amendment Foundation and other groups like it have more of a clear focus on gun rights. NRA has gotten too fat to move effectively in my view. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flbzbFbKxK0 Be safe, Yakdung Edited September 29, 2010 by yakdung 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nsdhanoa 13 Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 While it may be true that the Second Amendment Foundation is actively doing more for gun rights, the NRA membership number is what is used in Washington to gauge the country's general attitude towards firearms in any given year. The more NRA members there are, the more likely it is that votes will go in our favor because what it boils down to is that politicians exist just to get votes and perpetuate their own careers. So when the NRA tries to do shady crap like take complete credit for the Heller and McDonald victories, it's still important to remember that ditching the NRA isn't going to help 2nd Amendment rights in the long run. I'd say it's not at all contradictory to support the NRA as well as GOA, 2nd Amendment Foundation etc. at the same time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Ehhh, sounds like typical political sheep herding. "The NRA is the gold standard of 2nd Amendment activism in Washington, so we should just look the other way when they fuck up." About on par with "Voting 3rd party is silly/throwing away a vote, because the Republicans are the only one's who have a chance to partially represent your values/beliefs." 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ktcm7271 999 Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 If you do not reward GOOD behavior, and just blindly reward a single Party - you are just throwing your efforts away. All Repugniticans are NOT our friends, and all Demorats are not our ENEMIES! +1 and damn straight. I still hate the N.R.A. though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
getitat 609 Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Hello Once again, The Second Amendment is there to protect the First Amendment. The Second on it's own has virtually no value. Anyone who ignores or tramples the First yet claims adherance to the Second is blowing it out of their legislative ass. The Second is a wonderful and useful tool. The First is a thing of beauty and a testament to the foresight, bravery, and genius of our Forefathers. JMHO.... -guido Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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