dowork1021 64 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 i am planning on converting my saiga pretty soon and i want to do a 2 tone finish on the gun once its stripped. i have seen some other members paint jobs and was wondering if there are any tips you may have. plus i would love to see pictures of finishes you have done. i plan on painting the receiver, barrel, gas block and maybe the receiver cover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heath_h49008 442 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Cerakote is the best on the market. Duracoat is an excellent product, and a bit cheaper, with mixing for specific colors as an option. There are half a dozen other "Firearms coatings" below those two, but I have never heard anyone say they were any better than engine paint, despite some costing almost as much as the first two. I want to use Cerakote for my next build, but you should sandblast the surface to prepare for any of the high end stuff, and build a little oven to cure it. Right now, I don't have the time. My work was done with Krylon and High temp engine paint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Hi FFF I don't know what color combo you're thinking, but the easiest is probably having the stripped shotgun one color and whatever parts you're able to remove a separate color. That eliminates the need to mask off sections. I saw a dark gray S-12 with matching gray cover and everything else in black (carrier, safety, Tromix DIY trigger guard, trigger, gas plug and muzzle brake). Furniture was black too. Looked sharp. Corbin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akastormi 617 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm a big fan of DuraCoat. As for tips, prep, prep and more prep. Don't try to take short cuts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDriver 23 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Has anyone tried the Brownells Alumahyde 2? The cerakote seems great but I don't have a spray gun atm. It might be worth getting one if it's that much better though. Does anyone know how many guns the cerakote kit from Brownells will cover? I have a S12 and an Saiga x39 I'd like to refinish, probably the receiver, cover, and barrel/gas tube in dark earth while keeping the furniture black. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jdhonda810 29 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 If anyone has any pictures of their 2 tone, I'd like to see some as well. A little off topic, but I want to say something about Brownells, since thedriver said something it reminded me. I duracoated my FAL and used Brownell's spray grit on the pistol grip. It is some AWESOME shit. It is extremely grippy but has most of a glossy type finish. I have seen a duracoat job though a buddy did with the spray grit sprayed on the pistol grip, then he duracoated over it and it had a flat finish. It was niceee. Okay back on topic now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I used Duracoat Tac Black and OD Green on my SBS. Make sure you aluminum oxide everything you will be spraying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jdhonda810 29 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I used Duracoat Tac Black and OD Green on my SBS. Make sure you aluminum oxide everything you will be spraying. Why the aluminum oxide? Does this help strip and degrease? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akastormi 617 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 All my jobs are done with DuraCoat; Black and gray; Green, Black and Tan; Some custom camos; Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jdhonda810 29 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 All my jobs are done with DuraCoat; Black and gray; Green, Black and Tan; Some custom camos; Hey stormi, what color gray duracoat did you use on that saiga (top pic)? I want to do a 2tone as well but am looking for a little bit lighter. I though Colt Gray looked good, but haven't seen it on a gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) I used Duracoat Tac Black and OD Green on my SBS. Make sure you aluminum oxide everything you will be spraying. Why the aluminum oxide? Does this help strip and degrease? Blasting the Gun with Aluminum oxide strips the old finish off while pitting the surface of the Gun for the Duracoat to stick. After you Blast it, spray it down with degreaser. Prepping is so important. Edited February 2, 2011 by Sumsky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danomite45 1 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 The only way to two tone an ak is nickel and gold. I made about 10 of these many years ago. sorry, no photos to post. The only photos I have are printed out, not digital. not to worry, I'm starting a S12 project which will be nickel and black. Danomite! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akastormi 617 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 DuraCoat Grey Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jdhonda810 29 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 DuraCoat Grey Wolf Cool. I'm trying to settle on a medium tone gray that sits between the color u used on your receiver and the color you used on the 10 Mtn. Patch. I am considering Snow Gray..but I'm not totally sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akastormi 617 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Snow Gray's not a bad color. Mortar Gray is not bad either, alittle lighter. I do like and think black / Arctic Gray would be a cool match up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skiboatsp 111 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) I like moly resin and hardcoat anodize Edited February 2, 2011 by saigatechusa Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jdhonda810 29 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I like moly resin and hardcoat anodize How do you come to get a finish like that? That's not duracoat..... right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skiboatsp 111 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I like moly resin and hardcoat anodize How do you come to get a finish like that? That's not duracoat..... right? norrell's moly resin a phenolic resin base and molybdenum disulfide coating I feel is superior to any other coating Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jdhonda810 29 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Snow Gray's not a bad color. Mortar Gray is not bad either, alittle lighter. I do like and think black / Arctic Gray would be a cool match up. Hell no Snow Gray isn't a bad color. I LIKE it! Edited February 2, 2011 by JJ the GUN MAN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark4567 4 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I like moly resin and hardcoat anodize Nice looking SBS!! Who's brake is that???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roachtron 49 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Has anyone done a saiga 12 in hard chrome? That is my plan if I ever get my hands on a saiga 12 and get it converted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I like moly resin and hardcoat anodize Nice looking SBS!! Who's brake is that???? Saigatech's... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skiboatsp 111 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 It's real....and it's spectacular!! But seriously it accually works very well It take a large amount of surface area for the relativly low pressure gas to work against to give any real recoil reduction. Hence a large brake is required on a shotgun. Everyone who has tested it is amazed it works so well. The down side is it greatly increases noise to the shooter, but that's what ear protection is for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xbmxxx 5 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Im also planning on two toning mine, as I ended up with a dark earth stock and feel it'll look dumb with everything else black. Anyone have any good pics of color scheme done with dark earth? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randyre 0 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Anyone done a Gray or Gray green with OD furniture? Would love to see what it looks like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dowork1021 64 Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 ya im torn between the OD green and the dark gray. has anybody hard chromed a saiga before??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randyre 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I wonder if theres anyone on here with mad photoshop skills? That would be a good way to see some different schemes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dowork1021 64 Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 ya id like to see a white saiga with OD green furniture, safety, trigger and muzzle break. that would look pretty cool i think. shit, maybe ill try it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danklab 57 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Has anyone tried the Brownells Alumahyde 2? The cerakote seems great but I don't have a spray gun atm. It might be worth getting one if it's that much better though. Does anyone know how many guns the cerakote kit from Brownells will cover? I have a S12 and an Saiga x39 I'd like to refinish, probably the receiver, cover, and barrel/gas tube in dark earth while keeping the furniture black. I used the Alumahyde 2 on my s-12.. I think it was the Stainless Steel color, and used Alumahyde Matte Topcoat. I don't really think it is much different than high temp engine enamel. It does just fine for my purposes, and when it gets too beat up, I'll just detail strip it and paint it again.. no big deal. I didn't really want to spend $30 or $40 or more on a coating I wasn't sure about.. and Alumahyde is like $8 a can, so I figured I'd try it. It's actually a little lighter than I wanted. I think Snow Grey Duracoat was the exact color I wanted. I think it's pretty durable, and it takes a fair amount of force to chip/scratch the coating.. for example, the gun falling over and slamming into a nice sharp corner or part of another rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDriver 23 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Has anyone tried the Brownells Alumahyde 2? The cerakote seems great but I don't have a spray gun atm. It might be worth getting one if it's that much better though. Does anyone know how many guns the cerakote kit from Brownells will cover? I have a S12 and an Saiga x39 I'd like to refinish, probably the receiver, cover, and barrel/gas tube in dark earth while keeping the furniture black. I used the Alumahyde 2 on my s-12.. I think it was the Stainless Steel color, and used Alumahyde Matte Topcoat. I don't really think it is much different than high temp engine enamel. It does just fine for my purposes, and when it gets too beat up, I'll just detail strip it and paint it again.. no big deal. I didn't really want to spend $30 or $40 or more on a coating I wasn't sure about.. and Alumahyde is like $8 a can, so I figured I'd try it. It's actually a little lighter than I wanted. I think Snow Grey Duracoat was the exact color I wanted. I think it's pretty durable, and it takes a fair amount of force to chip/scratch the coating.. for example, the gun falling over and slamming into a nice sharp corner or part of another rifle. Thanks for the info. Sounds like it might work just fine. I won't be painting anything until it warms up a bit anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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