DisThunder82 2 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I don't love it...I don't hate it....I certainly wouldn't turn one down if it showed up in a Centerfire catalog, though. Looks like a great platform if you have picatinny hands. Your grip would be excellent! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Looks like what Americans do to Saiga's today, the commies must of copied it from us. Welcome to 2012, the Cold War is over. But it does look a little mall-ninja-ish. It was said that the thing on picture/video is a mock up though. Just going to have to wait and see what will happen with it. you're kidding me, my calender still says 1965, i call bullshit on you 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Looks like it has a rubber buttpad....I guess the (former) commies have gone soft. Plus, the AK74 brake is so good it can never be improved upon??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HappYBallZ 31 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 you're kidding me, my calender still says 1965, i call bullshit on you Cryogenic chamber? lol Looks like it has a rubber buttpad....I guess the (former) commies have gone soft. Plus, the AK74 brake is so good it can never be improved upon??? I actually seen lots of picture of special units running around in Muslim south Russia with different ones than the usual 74-type (not like that long skinny one though). So I guess yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 you're kidding me, my calender still says 1965, i call bullshit on you Cryogenic chamber? lol shit, and i thought i was just hot boxing in my closet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salmonking 149 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 I believe the Russians are subtly mocking us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lyle 1 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/kalashnikov-ak-12-e.html Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle is a newest creation of the IZMASH factory. It is intended to replace in production older Kalashnikov AK-74M and AK-100-series rifles for domestic use (by Russian army and LE), as well as for export. It was first displayed to press in January, 2012, and is believed to be still in development. AK-12 apparently stands for “Avtomat Kalashnikova, 2012”. Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle is planned to be available in two versions – “light” and “heavy”, with former adapted for cartridges like 5.45x39, 5.56x45, 6.5 Grendel and 7,62x39, and the latter for more powerful cartridges like 7,62x51 NATO. The main goal in development of the Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle appears to be to improve ergonomics and tactical flexibility of the weapon, while maintaining traditional high reliability and simplicity of the parent weapon. It is yet to be seen if Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle will live up to these expectations. Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle is gas operated, selective fire weapon using traditional “Kalashnikov type” action with long stroke gas piston and rotary bolt locking. Barrel has improved rifling for better accuracy, and a revised muzzle brake with NATO-standard external diameter of 22mm, allowing launching of rifle grenades of foreign manufacture. The receiver is redesigned, key modification being new top cover of more rigid design. It is hinged at the front and opens up and forward for disassembly and maintenance. Top cover latch release lever is located at the rear of receiver, right side, behind the safety. Safety / fire selector unit is also revised, to provide more ergonomic ambidextrous switch with 4 positions (Safe, Semi-auto, 3-rd bursts, Automatic). Safety / selector levers are located above the pistol grip, at both sides of the gun. Charging handle is moved forward to be removably attached to the gas piston, and can be installed on either side of the gun. New side-folding, telescoping adjustable stock is provided for AK-12. Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle features integral Picatinny rail at the top cover, and additional accessory rails at the top and both sides of the forend. Bottom section of the forend is available in two versions – with rail (to accept various ‘tactical’ accessories like lights and foregrips) or plain one (to accept standard 40mm grenade launchers like GP-25 or GP-30). In “light” version Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle will accept all ‘legacy’ magazines in its respective caliber, such as 30-round AKM or AK-74 and 40-round RPK / 45-round RPK-74 magazines. Additionally, new, 4-stack, 60-round box magazine is planned to be issued for AK-12. So much for blow back shifted pulse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Kenny 144 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Looks like what Americans do to Saiga's today, the commies must of copied it from us. Welcome to 2012, the Cold War is over. But it does look a little mall-ninja-ish. It was said that the thing on picture/video is a mock up though. Just going to have to wait and see what will happen with it. you're kidding me, my calender still says 1965, i call bullshit on you Playboy calendars don't count. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Looks like what Americans do to Saiga's today, the commies must of copied it from us. Welcome to 2012, the Cold War is over. But it does look a little mall-ninja-ish. It was said that the thing on picture/video is a mock up though. Just going to have to wait and see what will happen with it. you're kidding me, my calender still says 1965, i call bullshit on you Playboy calendars don't count. what about my elvis calendar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Looks like they took the features Americans have been adding to their AKs and Saigas combined with Galil features; folding stock aperture sight. They also made the safety more ergonomic and added a retractable stock like the AR. I don't see the charging handle so it's probably a mockup unless it's on the other side of the rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfanatic 221 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Lo I don't see the charging handle so it's probably a mockup unless it's on the other side of the rifle. It is next to where the dust cover hinges. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s762mokKGpk&list=UUQoQVFWXdlmhaGoKVNSU8eA&index=1&feature=plcp Edited February 11, 2012 by Gun Fanatic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclejake 428 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 WHAT DID HE SAY?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Without a rear peep sight it will not be any better than what we have with Saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warthog35F 11 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Finally, it appeared as a normal base for optics. Well, for fur. sighting line a bit longer. Too gud.Approximate overall view cars: Yes, I see. Things I'm excited about: Hinged dustcover/rail Receiver mounted sight Ambidexterous thumb safety Charging handle moved somewhere (possibly) more convenient Possible pushbutton mag release Things I'm disappointed about: It will never be available in the US Everything else I'm moderately tepid toward. they are currently working on a us civilian market version we will see though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darko 42 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I actually like it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I like the AK-12 that has been shown several times with 74M-style solid folding buttstock. However I have not seen the 7.62x51NATO version demonstrated. I would guess it's probably still just on paper, based on the setup used for the Saiga .308. Has anyone seen it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 i want one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I don't see it going into production if Russia is sitting on literally tons of small arms already. I do foresee the modernization or mission adaptation of the current platform though. Lots of pics on the net of Russian troops sporting AKs with Aimpoints, rails, etc. Here is a modified Polish SF AK in Afghanistan I have posted before. I didn't care for the angle of the stock but they were killing plenty of Taliban with them so it does the job. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Never mind the stock angle, what's the deal with that bipod? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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