Asmodeus 13 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) I figured something like this would be better than a small black bead. But, how about something that doesn't need to gather light? I watched the vid, what was that thing she was doing after every shot, moving her hand back and forth? I remember seeing something like that in an old Clint Eastwood movie... Ha. The saiga is a new addition for me. Didnt even have one when that was filmed. I've had the 870 for years. It may be slower but it does the job. As for the other commentary that developed. I get poking fun at the pump. But Family/wife = off limits. Thats like basic forum etiquette 101. This isn't YouTube. Shut the fuck up. Edited June 19, 2012 by Asmodeus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Definitely Krebs for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KennyFSU 249 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Lol lacking some thick skin I see. Don't want interweb comments then don't post vids. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxaks 1 Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Lil tension I sense thanks for the video link hot girls with potty mouths shooting guns equals ++++1 in my book sorry if this offends you but atleast I'm being honest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asmodeus 13 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) Lil tension I sense thanks for the video link hot girls with potty mouths shooting guns equals ++++1 in my book sorry if this offends you but atleast I'm being honest No your fine. I actually don't have thin skin. But if the first thing someone said to you was in reference to hand jobs and your lady. I think the least you would say is stfu. Its all good. The Krebs GRS uses the factory rear sight leaf slot right? I'm still trying to decide what to put in mine. But I have an AK rear sight. So I can't use the Krebs S12 setup. Already have the FSB out in front too. Maybe just a micro red dot since I have a rail already too. Edited June 20, 2012 by Asmodeus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I figured something like this would be better than a small black bead. But, how about something that doesn't need to gather light? I watched the vid, what was that thing she was doing after every shot, moving her hand back and forth? yer pussy hurt? I remember seeing something like that in an old Clint Eastwood movie... Ha. The saiga is a new addition for me. Didnt even have one when that was filmed. I've had the 870 for years. It may be slower but it does the job. As for the other commentary that developed. I get poking fun at the pump. But Family/wife = off limits. Thats like basic forum etiquette 101. This isn't YouTube. Shut the fuck up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOB A. BOOEY 45 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Looks like ill be getting the Krebs sights I get angry easily and don't want to throw any babies in a wood chipper! Lmfao Theres nuthin wrong with HK sights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KennyFSU 249 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Can you guys post some pics of your aftermarket sights? I'm also interested in the Krebs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxaks 1 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 The Krebs sight has the AK Feb and a ghost ring back sight that slides in the rear Sight. For the cheaper shot guns with no leaf sights Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fox84 0 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) I can shoot eyeballs out with stock sights at 25 yards with slugs so why change? It's a shot gun. Point and shoot! Edited June 20, 2012 by Fox84 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) so why change? One reason is eyesight. If you have 20/20 vision uncorrected, I'm happy for you. In my case, my vision hasn't been that good since I was 10 years old. I have to wear glasses (tried contacts, drove me nuts) to see the front sight clearly when shooting a rifle but I can see the factory front bead on an S-12 clear enough without correction because I'm near-sighted. But unless the front bead is against a light background it's not so clear. Add to this the fact that I was diagnosed during my last eye exam as having the early stages of "Endothelial Distrophy" which means my corneas are clouding up, it adds up to a situation in which an easier to see front bead would be a big help. Something like a Tritium dot (that doesn't have to gather light) is what I'm leaning toward. Or a red dot of some kind. I imagine at some point in the future replacement with a "bionic" eye complete with rangefinder, IR and X-ray mode will be possible. But I'll be a pile of dust by then. Edited June 21, 2012 by Squishy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOB A. BOOEY 45 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Im going with a Red Dot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Im going with a Red Dot Which? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnaz 215 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 So what about removing the bead and adding one of these boys; this is what i did with mine with a micro red dot.have chaos HK quadrail but decided to change set up. the chaos is a high quality set up but with little experience more comfortable with new setup works better for me for point and shoot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) So that's a deal that has to gather light unlike Tritium, does it work well in low light? Also, I assume when you remove the bead, drill and tap the hole it goes through to the gas block. If you use Locktite does that sufficiently seal the hole? Edited June 21, 2012 by Squishy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asmodeus 13 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 So that's a deal that has to gather light unlike Tritium, does it work well in low light? Also, I assume when you remove the bead, drill and tap the hole it goes through to the gas block. If you use Locktite does that sufficiently seal the hole? Remember the gas block has a big vent hole in the side of it towards the rear. Its never sealed. Granted that is more forward and towards the top... I don't see a bunch of gas escaping through the threads. There wont be time for that to happen. And locktite should seal it enough as you mentioned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anathoth 4 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Don't forget the XS ghost ring rear for HK sights- I wouldn't like a HK diopter rear on a Saiga, but the XS can work out nicely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asmodeus 13 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 But aren't their ways to just get a peep sight on the Saiga without doing the HK at all? Like skip a step? Cause to me... its like putting 416 sights on an AR, and then turning them back into peep/ ghost ring sights. Or basically... what you could have had from the start. Minus the trouble and cost of putting the HK on the gun in the first place. See what I'm saying? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
getitat 609 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Hello +1 for XS on HK bases. I'm not wild about HK sights but for shottie use the XS hits a sweet spot. My new woody S12 will be the only one in my stable without XS sights but with the Dinzag sight block mod's I've mounted Meprolight rear and XS Big Dot front in the standard AK sight mounts. I'm optimistic it will be a good night-sight combo. JMHO... -guido in Houston Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anathoth 4 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 But aren't their ways to just get a peep sight on the Saiga without doing the HK at all? Like skip a step? Cause to me... its like putting 416 sights on an AR, and then turning them back into peep/ ghost ring sights. Or basically... what you could have had from the start. Minus the trouble and cost of putting the HK on the gun in the first place. See what I'm saying? Sure. It's a matter of preference on positioning of the rear ghost ring in relation to the shooter- some like them in the standard AK location, such as with the Krebs, etc, and some like them closer to the rear of the receiver, more like what one might find on certain other non-Kalashnikov rifles/shotguns. If positioning isn't a concern, then there are certainly other ghost ring options besides the HK/XS that are cheaper.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 EOTech with MBUS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Control3 3 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Don't forget the XS ghost ring rear for HK sights- I wouldn't like a HK diopter rear on a Saiga, but the XS can work out nicely. I'm interested in low sights. It looks like that front sight will drop into the HK front sight block, but I don't see how that rear sight block is going to attach to the Saiga. Edited June 26, 2012 by Control3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Don't forget the XS ghost ring rear for HK sights- I wouldn't like a HK diopter rear on a Saiga, but the XS can work out nicely. I'm interested in low sights. It looks like that front sight will drop into the HK front sight block, but I don't see how that rear sight block is going to attach to the Saiga. Looks like you'd have to have an HK rear sight base welded to your dustcover in order to attach it. Looks like an easy upgrade for folks with standard HK rear sights. The front sight is for an HK front sight base, it will not thread directly into the S12. To clarify, the post with the dot on the left is the front sight post and the post with the ring on the right is the rear-sight ghost-ring aperture (different size maybe?) that threads into the rear sight pictured in the center. I think I got all that right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asmodeus 13 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Yes everything pictured is for HK sights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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