Pro2A 17 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) There are too many options for a handguard/rail system out there, for the uneducated buyer. I've seen selections that range greatly in price. I have searched these forums for handguard advice, but that word doesn't bring up to many helpful threads. I'm looking for something that has enough rail to put an angled grip or folding handle on the bottom, and perhaps a red dot sight on the top for the future. I'm not really looking to mount flashlights, bayonets, or dixie flag holders. Do I really need aircraft grade aluminum? Will the black impact plastic types work just fine? I'm also concerned with having something that doesn't clamp down on the gas system, as I read that it seems to bind it up. Are there any recommended ones for those that have had multiple experiences, or those to stay away from. I know I need something different, because I bought a 20 round drum, and the factory handguard isn't a comfortable grip while trying to wrap my arm around the drum. Edited October 21, 2012 by Pro2A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sneaky 2 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/80311-css-forearm-slop-take-out/ Thats what i did. Kinda had the same mindset as you where i wasnt looking for a gargantuan quad rail, just enough to put a grip on to make it more comfey to shoot with drums and maybe a flashlight in the future. You dont have to add the set screws like i did, works without but i have ocd or something when it comes to building or modding things and that tinsy bit of wiggle bothered me to no end. Heck you could just get some rail segments like i did and add it to the bottom of the stock handguard, theres posts on here where people have done that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pro2A 17 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Yeah, not so sure I could drill angled holes that good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Short answer: shave the OEM handguard flat so that it is parallel to bore, and bolt on a $12 stick of picatinny rail. Screw heads on the inside, tapped into the lugs of the rail. #6 screws work just fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what he said. LOL Although I'm looking to change mine out, I've been happy with the Intrafuse HG on my S12. It's lightweight and you don't have to mount all the rails unless you want to. No provision for a top rail on it without adding something else, like an Ultimak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yamadog35 28 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I'm new to the S-12, but I'm liking the Phoenix on mine. It was on the gun when I bought it and has worked well for me so far - about 500 rounds to this point. It is simple and flexible in that you can use or remove side rails and bottom rails to fit your needs. It uses a simple mounting mechanism and does not clamp to anything. Downside is there no top rail option and it is not insulated so it can get hot. I've seen them out there for around $40. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I picked up this from a member here, I do not what make it is. I like it a lot, fits my hand well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Like GunFun said, the factory HG is the simplest way to go when seeking more practical than "tactical". It's very light weight, fit's the gun better than any other, and rails can be added very easily for a forward grip or light on the bottom. I like to custom mill cooling vents in the sides to keep it from overheating. Some examples... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/32246-hg-venting-service/ http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/31210-saiga-12-k-and-20-k-style-hgs/ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
montec 164 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I've got the UTG Pro Quad.(made in the USA) and I have not had any issues with the gas system binding up. Works for me. Love to get the the Chaos Titan, but funs is what got me but some day. http://www.chaosus.com/cgi/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=TITAN_QUAD_RAIL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rnemhrd 165 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I have this, http://www.chaosus.com/cgi/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=TRI_RAIL Picked it up second hand in perfect condition so the price was right. Not as light as the plastic ones but fit and finish second to none for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shoot2thrillu 10 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 i got the sgm. i think gen2 it has a removeable top rail. i got a scope mounted to it but its off. its more like the stock one but with rails Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pro2A 17 Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Thanks for the suggestions. I'm liking the Intrafuse so far Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Castalia 19 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) SGM shortened and lightened. Added a sling swivel. Modified AFG. Works well. Good luck. Castalia Edited October 23, 2012 by Castalia 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Here is a good option for your top rail. http://forum.saiga-1...-now-available/ Buy it(^) here http://store.carolin...-Shotgun/Detail Here is a good price for what I recommend and use.(mine is not extended) http://www.chaosus.c...ENDED_QUAD_RAIL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goose 95 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) The Intrafuse works great, and the AFG on the bottom is pretty nice. The front of the older model of the AFG wraps upward around the Intrafuse almost as if Tapco and Magpul had planned it. However, if you choose to put the sling stud on in front of the bottom rail, the only way to attach the AFG is from back to front, which means that you kinda have to force it forward. See, the tracks on the front of the AFG that fit over the rail, want to be in line just a hair before those upward wraps of the AFG grip is clear of the more squared corners of the rear of the Intrafuse. But the Intrafuse is good on an S12, it's slim, full length, not very heavy, rails optional and included, and the lower rail is long and foward enough to let you put the AFG all the way forward until it butts against the sling stud. And it's cheap. It doesn't have a top rail for your optic, but you can keep your irons until you decide to get your red dot, and then you can choose either the CSS dovetail rail section that KOTH mentioned, or the Ultimak. *spelling Edited October 23, 2012 by Goose Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pro2A 17 Posted October 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Here is a good price for what I recommend and use.(mine is not extended) http://www.chaosus.c...ENDED_QUAD_RAIL I like this. Plenty of room if desires change. Does the top rail go too far back on top of the dust cover, or is it easy on and off? Does it work with the gas system good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Here is a good price for what I recommend and use.(mine is not extended) http://www.chaosus.c...ENDED_QUAD_RAIL I like this. Plenty of room if desires change. Does the top rail go too far back on top of the dust cover, or is it easy on and off? Does it work with the gas system good? It does not clamp the gas tube so, yes good. I believe you can still remove the dust cover, yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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