Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Was going to pick another Saiga or Vepr but not so hot on that now. Thinking something military pattern but haven't found much outside of FAL or M1A. Maybe a boltie? Perhaps... Anyway kinda stuck in the mud here maybe one of you guys has an idea that gets me going again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkHorse 216 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I'm waiting anxiously on my second S-308 to arrive. My 21" shoots like laser fricken accurate out to 300 yards and I can't imagine why anyone would want anything else? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I would have went with the Vepr, but since your not really wanting it now then, how much are you looking to spend? and purpose? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) Was going to pick another Saiga or Vepr but not so hot on that now. Thinking something military pattern but haven't found much outside of FAL or M1A. Dude, if thats all you've found then your research skills are piss poor. There are several semi auto .308's on the market right now, and 3 or 4 of them are on my potential list. But then I already have a STG 58 so it's not like I need another .308... Edited November 3, 2012 by Jpanzer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 If you don't already have one, I have a thing for the PTR-91. I have been looking to acquire one once I get the cash flowing in again. Until then I just get to dream. They aren't bad from what I have read up and you can't beat the $2/per mags for it. Aluminum and steel, tons of em, everywhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Or a SCAR 17. Ive been wanting one of those for a while. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 SCAR17 hands down... Light, well balanced, super soft recoil. By far my favorite .308. The ONLY drawback is the price. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) Not sure exactly what role I want this rifle to fill. Yeah I know... sorry about that. Like it to be a 2 MOA rifle utterly dependable and something that has spare parts available for a change. Yeah if money were no object the SCAR17 would be my first pick also but I have other projects going now also so keeping it under $1.5k. PTR91F looking good, forgot about those may put it ahead of the FAL. They seem a bit ammo picky though but then compared to an AK pattern what isn't. "Thinking something military pattern but haven't found much ACCEPTABLE outside of FAL or M1A." There fixed it. As for why not the Russian rifles well I have two and the complete lack of part kits or spares makes me unwilling to further commit to them. Edited November 2, 2012 by Rhodes1968 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 SCAR17 hands down... Light, well balanced, super soft recoil. By far my favorite .308. The ONLY drawback is the price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkHorse 216 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 LMAO!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 If money were no object, I agree, the SCAR 17 is the shit. However, since it IS, I'm looking at the SIG 716... http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/sig716-patrol-rifle.aspx 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red308 54 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 anybody have any knowledge/experience or own a fn fnar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Century Arms Spanish CETME is a nice rifle, and affordable. I have had 3 of them and they all shot fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) The Sig busts the budget and M1A is pushing it. Looking close at the PTR91 right now, no rush. Wish the Ruskies would have gotten their crap together damit Thanks for the suggestions Edited November 3, 2012 by Rhodes1968 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 (http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=category&virtuemart_category_id=108&Itemid=729) I have been watching over the GI model. On sale now at $899, but I also like the target model. Wish it was tax season right now 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inzami 36 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 You should consider Vepr 308 in 16 inch barrel, if parts are of concern get 2 as they cost <$600 a piece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voltia 375 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 anybody have any knowledge/experience or own a fn fnar. I own one. It is the FN FNAR. To me, it is a civilian semi auto sitting in a paramilitary stock. It is EXTREMELY accurate. I slapped a 2x7 Leopold on there and I can hit under 1 MOA groups all day long, and I'm just a fair shot. However, it has a lot of tiny parts, being the Browning short action semi auto that has been in many guns for a while. The mags are expensive. I don't think it is as durable as an M1A or a HK91, but it shoots more accurately than they do. Chromed barrel is nice too. As for other .308s. To me, the M1A is the native platform for .308. The extruded receiver steel guns are fun, like the Hk91 or the FAL. If you get an HK91 or a clone, that blowback action will stripe your brass black, ding the front, and chuck the empty case into whatever zip code is to your immediate starboard bow. The trigger packs are awful, but they are a serious military rifle. The M1A is a great weapon. The trigger is good, mags are not very expensive, and the sights are wonderful, the best irons ever made, many say. An M1A, you buy it, and it just works. No trigger work, no new sights, no pistol grip conversion. Other than the FNAR it is the most accurate I have shot of the .308s. Then there's the AR-10. Everything you love about the AR-15, just more badass. If I didn't own 3 .308s already, I'd get one. Maybe some day I will. Then, if you want to be old-school awesome, there is the M1 Garand, as there are some .308 versions. Personally, I'd stay with 30-06 because that's what makes them awesome. I've got one coming in this week and I am stoked. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mostholycerebus 415 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I shoot my dads SA Match M1A1 all the time, and I can definitely say, its heavy. If you want a rifle to club or bayonet someone, theres none better, its built like a tank. Shoots WAY better than any of us. But I get tired of holding it up after a few mags. Sure, I could lift weights, or just buy a lighter rifle to begin with. Looks amazing though. I would still consider it an essential part of any classic american firearms collection, if yer going for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead7544 35 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Ruger Scout. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Excellent thoughts folks. I like the M1A also IF you get a good one, there are some quality issues to contend but generally no more so than any other rifle. It is the image of the consummate traditional American Battle Rifle, if only I could afford a M14. Weight? No worse than any Battle Rifle if the stock is composite. I am going to see what I can find out here in a Match version in particular since I am slowly replacing steel with brass cased reloadable ammo. We will see. AR10? I just have not gotten enough confirmation the problems with the bugger are worked out, they were not four years ago when last I checked. As a side note I detest Stoner rifles, far too many less than acceptable experiences with them when I worked for Uncle. I agree the FN seems a bit over engineered for my tastes but then compared to a Saiga or Vepr what isn't. Perhaps. I like the Garand (once you learn to keep your thumb intact) but not going to stock another caliber. If I go with a boltie the Ruger would be a consideration. Thanks guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Good luck with your decision. These choices are hard to make. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeremiahisnaked 64 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Save up and get the SCAR-17. You will never regret it and you will not have to think about still wanting the baddest 308 on the planet. or get a siaga 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Wish it was tax season right now Not me, writing a check to the government is not something I look 'forward' to. JM2C 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slostang 80 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 I would recommend the vector line of HK91 clones. I have an SBR'd V58 .308 9" that eats everything i feed it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Wish it was tax season right now Not me, writing a check to the government is not something I look 'forward' to. JM2C Each year it pays off being a student that always pays too much in taxes I guess. I get a little savings each week, if not as much money as I'd hoped for 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 On the issue of the SCAR-17, were I to spend that much it would have to be select fire. Yeah Capt it is hard to decide where to put the limited funds. Between Food, silver, gold, stockpiled cash, gasoline, medical supplies, etc etc etc not to mention every day living expenses things are tight enough. I am even seriously considering reducing my firearm inventory to reinvest the proceeds into perceived wiser choices. Is shedding all the 9mm stuff worth expanding the 308 and 40SW stock, yeah think it is frankly. I thank you guys for the help though. BTW anyone notice how hard it is to find decent quality 308 brass lately? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Personally I find the SCAR17 Mo-fugly. that stock is horrid... it looked like a huge BOOT to me LONG before that picture of the UGG was posted... it just reafirmed its got the dumbest looking stock on the planet... fix THAT... and maybe I could consider one... Maybe something like the telescoping stock off an H&K... That would do the trick for the REST of it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red308 54 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 On the issue of the SCAR-17, were I to spend that much it would have to be select fire. Yeah Capt it is hard to decide where to put the limited funds. Between Food, silver, gold, stockpiled cash, gasoline, medical supplies, etc etc etc not to mention every day living expenses things are tight enough. I am even seriously considering reducing my firearm inventory to reinvest the proceeds into perceived wiser choices. Is shedding all the 9mm stuff worth expanding the 308 and 40SW stock, yeah think it is frankly. I thank you guys for the help though. BTW anyone notice how hard it is to find decent quality 308 brass lately? Where i live it has been four months since i have been able to get my hands on cheap 308 ammo every store/shop in town has been sold out and a couple places said they aren't even trying to get it anymore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 On the issue of the SCAR-17, were I to spend that much it would have to be select fire. Yeah Capt it is hard to decide where to put the limited funds. Between Food, silver, gold, stockpiled cash, gasoline, medical supplies, etc etc etc not to mention every day living expenses things are tight enough. I am even seriously considering reducing my firearm inventory to reinvest the proceeds into perceived wiser choices. Is shedding all the 9mm stuff worth expanding the 308 and 40SW stock, yeah think it is frankly. I thank you guys for the help though. BTW anyone notice how hard it is to find decent quality 308 brass lately? I ended up getting rid of my .40, and picking up a 9mm. So now have to buy for that all over again. lol. But in my neck of the woods, seems .45 and .308 and 5.45 are the hardest to find in a decent quantity. Seems most shops stock 9,40 and 357 pretty good and 223, 30-30 and 270 pretty good. I think you'll make the right choice and so long as its something you want and feel fair about then go for it. I usually buy all my harder to find items on the net anyways. Personally I find the SCAR17 Mo-fugly. that stock is horrid... it looked like a huge BOOT to me LONG before that picture of the UGG was posted... it just reafirmed its got the dumbest looking stock on the planet... fix THAT... and maybe I could consider one... Maybe something like the telescoping stock off an H&K... That would do the trick for the REST of it... As ugly as it is Indy, thats what makes it beautiful! I prefer the stock of the ACR, with the SCAR platform. I think that would be a nice blend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Personally I find the SCAR17 Mo-fugly. that stock is horrid... it looked like a huge BOOT to me LONG before that picture of the UGG was posted... it just reafirmed its got the dumbest looking stock on the planet... fix THAT... and maybe I could consider one... Maybe something like the telescoping stock off an H&K... That would do the trick for the REST of it... Funny thing is, when the fucker is shoved into your stinky armpit you won't notice it. Whatever homely looks you might think it has disappear real quickly when you can't wipe the smile off your face from shooting the lightest, most well balanced, and softest shooting .308 on the face of the earth. To me they are nothing but absolutely beautiful. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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