Supreme Court nominee Judge Samuel Alito

[KySoldier 2]

Anyone heard yet if the new nominee is pro gun? I heard on The Colbert Report last night that he believed that machine guns were covered under the right to bear arms. I'm assuming this was an exaggeration but it got me thinking. Can't find anything on the NRA's website about him.

[Wolverine 10,360]

Anyone heard yet if the new nominee is pro gun? I heard on The Colbert Report last night that he believed that machine guns were covered under the right to bear arms. I'm assuming this was an exaggeration but it got me thinking. Can't find anything on the NRA's website about him.

 

 

I heard the same thing but it was rolling out of the mouth of the Chairman of the Democratic party so who knows. Still, the fact that they are already beginning to malign his character, reputation and positon on meaty issues bodes well in general. The friggin NOW is going bonkers and I am LMAO.

 

I understood the comment to be that Alito's position is that Congress does not have the legal authority to restrict or outlaw machine guns. Works for me. Now if he could get Roberts and the majority on board and hear a couple of cases restoring the Second Amendment that would be great.

 

Let's see what develops. The Republicans have the majority so they can put him in as long as there are no real skeletons in the closet.

 

W.

[G O B 3,516]

Anothe slimey SOB. He has been overruled on appeal because he REFUSED to recuse himself from a case pertaining to a company that he HELD STOCK in. Another amoral self richeos asshole. I do not trust the man. There are plenty of good men and women that would make great justiceses. This in not one of them.

 

G O B

[Wolverine 10,360]

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Anothe slimey SOB. He has been overruled on appeal because he REFUSED to recuse himself from a case pertaining to a company that he HELD STOCK in. Another amoral self richeos asshole. I do not trust the man. There are plenty of good men and women that would make great justiceses. This in not one of them.

 

G O B

 

 

Sorry to hear it. I was hoping we had stumbled on one capable of independent thought who is committed to upholding the Constitution as written and Amended rather than legislating from the bench.

 

PS....I still enjoy watching the NOW women folk having their seizures though.

[G O B 3,516]

Hey! The jury may still be out on Judge Alto--- Now some LIBERAL's are praising him for his adherance to the law, and not legeslating from the bench. That said--I still do not trust him for the reason that refusing to recluse himself from ruling when one of the litigents is a corporation in wich he has a financial intrest , shows poor judgement and a lack of personal ethics and moral fibre.

 

G O B

[jtoddellis 2]

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Hey! The jury may still be out on Judge Alto--- Now some LIBERAL's are praising him for his adherance to the law, and not legeslating from the bench. That said--I still do not trust him for the reason that refusing to recluse himself from ruling when one of the litigents is a corporation in wich he has a financial intrest , shows poor judgement and a lack of personal ethics and moral fibre.

 

G O B

 

 

I think we need a Judge who will adhere to the laws. It is not their job to legislate. Thats the problem with the supreme court now. Laws are supposed to be made by the representitives we elected, not by some Judge. Some people are against Alito because he upheld a case on abortion. The decision he made was based on the law. The law says it is up to the State. He ruled in favor of the State. He did not involve his personal beliefs in the case. I'm against abortion, but I think he did his job.

[KySoldier 2]

THIS JUST IN...

 

"In a lone dissenting opinion as a federal appeals court judge in 1996, Alito argued that the federal ban on possessing machine guns was unconstitutional" "Alito said the federal ban on possessing machine guns exceeded Congress' power to regulate interstate commerce, but a majority of his court disagreed, and the Supreme Court denied review."

 

-http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/11/02/MNG0DFHNR71.DTL

[Cobra 76 two 2,677]

Alito the nerd judge for president!!

[scoutjoe 276]

if Alito says its ok for machine guns i'd let him be dictator*

 

 

 

 

*all statements made by me today are under the effect of maxocain and other forms of painkillers so take them with a grain of salt

[dinzag 31]

if Alito says its ok for machine guns i'd let him be dictator

+1

[NoTreason4 0]

THIS JUST IN...

 

"In a lone dissenting opinion as a federal appeals court judge in 1996, Alito argued that the federal ban on possessing machine guns was unconstitutional" "Alito said the federal ban on possessing machine guns exceeded Congress' power to regulate interstate commerce, but a majority of his court disagreed, and the Supreme Court denied review."

 

-http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/11/02/MNG0DFHNR71.DTL

 

 

Ironically, this is exactly what is known as "judicial activism" these days. So called conservatives who rail against judges for "making law" on the bench are invaribably railing against a decision that was made on congruance with the constitution.

 

 

I find it fortunate that this guy has ruled correctly that machine guns are protected by the second ammendment.... but I doubt that the supreme court will take, or even rule in favor, of gun rights anytime in the next 50 years.

 

If Alito held to this position, he'd likely be writing the minority opinion.

 

Neither Democratic nor Republican appointees to the supreme court are likely to be pro-gun because neither party is pro gun.

[KySoldier 2]

 

Neither Democratic nor Republican appointees to the supreme court are likely to be pro-gun because neither party is pro gun.

 

I'm almost afraid to ask, but do you, or anyone else, think that the "pro-gun" attitude is the minority and therefore not seen as overall desirable by either party which in the end, are just trying to get the most votes by any means?

[NoTreason4 0]

I think gun rights are anti-thema to government power. Which is why they were in the constitution. I think politicians are not principled people. They are people who want power, and government gives them a way to get power "legally".

 

Thus, almost no politician trusts their constituants with guns, because guns represent the people's ultimate ability to defend themselves.

 

There's three boxes in americna politics-- the soap box, the ballot box and the bullet box. The FCC has regulated all communication ot the point that the soap box is effectively controlled. The elections are rigged with gerrymandering and campaign finance "Reform" to ensure that only one of the two parties can get elected.

 

The last, best, and only hope the american people have to get a constitutional republic back is the bullet box.

 

And so both parties will only pay lipservice to gun rights, while they take them away, slowly.

 

Last year there was a case brought before the supreme court-- petitioned the court, I mean, called Silviera. In this case two circuit courts had made contradictory rulings-- the issue is clearly in conflict and only the supreme court can decide it.

 

Despite all this, tehy refused to hear the case.

 

Why? Because they will not rule on a major gun case-- they will not allow one to come before them. IF they do, they will only do it when they can be assured that it will not cause insurrection in the country.

 

The Miller decision was in the late 1930s. Since then, no major supreme court case has come before them.

 

Because its a no win for them-- if they uphold the second ammendment, 20,000 laws become null and void immedietly. IF they don't, they're going to have some real problems to deal with.

 

So, we can't count on the supreme court. I don't think this guy is really a good guy for us-- he's spent his whole life working to increase government power. He's not really a freedom fighter type.

[macbeau 902]

There's three boxes in americna politics-- the soap box, the ballot box and the bullet box.

Actually, there are four boxes for American liberty.

We have four boxes used to guarantee our liberty: The soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box. -- Ambrose Bierce

 

Just FYI

[Reverendfranz 160]

Not exactly the same thing, but alito's vote on no knock police searches, in the majority, sent another civil protection down the drain. The case was reheard upon his joining the court, i think it gives a good idea of how his votes will play.

 

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/ite...o_knock_police/

 

Well, thats the fourth, which is next?

 

When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.

When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.

When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.

Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all.

~~ Tim Freeman.

[Bvamp 604]

noone in power at any level of government thinks of me and you as people. they look down on us and look at us as thier servants, and pieces of shit. they lie, cheat, steal, break about any law they can get away with, and the best part about it is you cant do shit about it.

 

eventually, as Ive said in the past, the people that be will be held accountable for ruining our country and our rights and just our general american way of life.

 

if you think you are free, guess again. you arent.

[G O B 3,516]

Once upon a time there was a government of the people , for the people , and by the people.

 

I mourn for it.

 

 

G O B

[Gaddis 1,689]

Yeah, but how many of you actually take the time out to write your elected officials on issues that really concern you.

 

It's a two way street, and (sad to admit) most gun owners are an extremely lazy lot.

[Bayoupiper 738]

A good rule of thumb in law enforcement:

The quickest way to get a law changed is to enforce it.

Just wait until some senator or rep's kid gets popped and the law will be changed!

[Gaddis 1,689]

Why, by blaming the firearm again (instead of the perpetrator actually pulling the trigger) for the deed?

[Ronswin 26]

Gun Control does not seem the battle cry of the Liberal Democrats as it once was. After the last Presidential election the Dems were beat bad by using the banner of stricter gun control. Anyone remember Kerry attempting to flip flop and produce an image of pro-gun by staging a bird hunting trip before the elections? It was a poor attempt and it didn't help in the end when the ballots were counted.

You still have a few socialists like Feinstein and Schumer which still scream gun control at even unrelated issues and most the Democratic party is treating them like a Hell's Angel at a Beverly Hills County club. I welcome any politician/judge who stands for my right to keep and bear arms as long as that politician/judge has a past record of being pro-gun.

[Reverendfranz 160]

I liked Kerry, because after being somewhat badgered on some "I dont think there is a justification for citizens owning asault rifles" statement he made, he admitted having one or more Ak-47's in his safe at home. heh, the way i see it, he wasnt really flip flopping, he was just confused...

 

Didnt vote for him, but still. Ak-47 owner for president, that might have gotten him elected. (at least around here.)

[sodak06 0]

IF they want em', they can come and get em'. Period!

[Ronswin 26]

I liked Kerry, because after being somewhat badgered on some "I dont think there is a justification for citizens owning asault rifles" statement he made, he admitted having one or more Ak-47's in his safe at home. heh, the way i see it, he wasnt really flip flopping, he was just confused...

 

Didnt vote for him, but still. Ak-47 owner for president, that might have gotten him elected. (at least around here.)

 

Rev,

Having an AK at home and denouncing "assault rifles" in the same breath to most Democrats is "Well, I can have one, but the average citizen definately should not". This is elitist ruling class mentality at worst. Kerry came across to me as a second rate used-car salesman vying for power and his military record is questionable at best. You can see his real views on gun control here:

 

http://www.sportsmenforkerry.com/

[KySoldier 2]

Didnt vote for him, but still. Ak-47 owner for president, that might have gotten him elected. (at least around here.)

 

One thing doesn't always mean the other. Its well know that Feinstein, the biggest anti-gunner there is in congress, has a concealed carry license. And her state of California is like NYC with issuing them, THEY, the police, get to decide if you really need one or not. California's state constitution has NO PROVISIONS for the right to bear arms.

[Bvamp 604]

for the record, I HAVE written several very specific and detailed letters of complaint to various people that would be in my state's government when I have heard of more b.s. laws they want to pass for no reason. I have gotten responses to one or two of them, as well, so I know that I am being heard. chain letters dont cut the cheese, if you ask me. personalise your complaint when it is a common issue, and they will see "holy crap, everybody wrote a different letter, they must be getting mad at us or something"

 

like I said though. you arent free. the government does not care about me or you, and pretty much just wants us to pay them and thier corrupt friends as much as we can all possibly afford. its a shame, like GOB stated above. damn shame.

 

it had been suggested to me in the past at different points in my life to join the police department and such and go out and change thing myself, but ya know what? I really dont want to help people. my hat's off to those that do that for a living that are JUST and KIND in thier lines of work. the rest? should be tossed off the nearest cliff along with our 95% corrupt government and we should rebuild from the ground up.

 

but that'll never happen, so I will continue to work to try to save up enough money to move to montana or alaska or somewhere out in the middle of nowhere so that I wont have to deal with any of that crap till the end of my days....

[Cobra 76 two 2,677]

NC is pretty cool...

At least that seems to be the popular opinion of a WHOLE LOT of other Nyers.

 

Oh yeah,

 

GO HURRICANES!!!