JDeko 792 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I actually like its looks more than a lot of the tacticool 109 set-ups since the rails are built into flat pieces so it looks smoother, but the fact it can't take 3in shells and has that dumb flappy door is just pointless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) What a cluster fuck of Shit. Looks clunky, bulky, awkward and just plain old retarded. TURD! I don't care how they try to sell it, it's a turd! So what you trying to say ? Yeah I'm definitely on the fence about it. Chaos has the right idea with a US made box fed 12g. That thing above is a laughable, abomination. I actually like its looks more than a lot of the tacticool 109 set-ups since the rails are built into flat pieces so it looks smoother, but the fact it can't take 3in shells and has that dumb flappy door is just pointless. BAN HER! lol. While I don't much care for tacticool guns. I'd take a "tactical" quad railed S12 over that steaming pile. ERRDAY ALLDAY! Edited April 30, 2015 by Mullet Man 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I like the look of this one's foregrip better than the ones that look like a circular AR foregrip made out of k'nex pieces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Agreed Cameron's will smoke any of this. I have a seperate account just to throw money at him 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Ouch what a mess. Glad I stuck with the Mossy 590. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 Agreed Cameron's will smoke any of this. I have a seperate account just to throw money at him I mentioned something similar in cams woc 12 post. I did say I'm not going to be the first to buy, I never am. I want to see how it performs first. But if what he said about multiple customization options is true, there's no way I'm only buying two. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 Agreed Cameron's will smoke any of this. I have a seperate account just to throw money at him I mentioned something similar in cams woc 12 post. I did say I'm not going to be the first to buy, I never am. I want to see how it performs first. But if what he said about multiple customization options is true, there's no way I'm only buying two. Cams shit is top notch. No doubt his weapon will be any less. I actually want a bunch of them too. As to this O12, I dont think its worth a fuck. I'll take a virgin S12 over it any day. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 What a cluster fuck of Shit. Looks clunky, bulky, awkward and just plain old retarded. TURD! I don't care how they try to sell it, it's a turd! Exactly. A polished turd is still shit! And this gun is no different. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 I dunno, the chaos gun is going to take existing magazines. how can you pretend it's the first on the market then? your early adopter cred will be shot! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 I dunno, the chaos gun is going to take existing magazines. how can you pretend it's the first on the market then? your early adopter cred will be shot! Dont fuck with my head, Im listening to Taylor Swift. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fitty% 808 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 What a cluster fuck of Shit. Looks clunky, bulky, awkward and just plain old retarded. TURD! I don't care how they try to sell it, it's a turd! Exactly. A polished turd is still shit! And this gun is no different. Not to mention the fact that the bore axis is lower then the buttstocks axis....generally this might be of benefit but they put a spring loaded folding stock mechanisms on it and the reason thats not that great of on idea is as follows: Ive seen a "teaser" video that IV8888 did just for his Facebook page. It wasn't Eric or the other skinny guy but the bigger gunsmith that created the Mosin "fugly stick" I believe. Well it seems that he was shooting high brass through a 5 round magazine and with each round, because the bore axis is lower than the stock axis, the spring loaded hinge started to compress and had it been a 6 round or more magazine it would have folded on him unexpectedly and doesn't seem to be safe....I may be an idiot though? lol has anyone else seen this possible issue amongst the many other issues with this monstrosity? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 What a cluster fuck of Shit. Looks clunky, bulky, awkward and just plain old retarded. TURD! I don't care how they try to sell it, it's a turd! Exactly. A polished turd is still shit! And this gun is no different. Not to mention the fact that the bore axis is lower then the buttstocks axis....generally this might be of benefit but they put a spring loaded folding stock mechanisms on it and the reason thats not that great of on idea is as follows: Ive seen a "teaser" video that IV8888 did just for his Facebook page. It wasn't Eric or the other skinny guy but the bigger gunsmith that created the Mosin "fugly stick" I believe. Well it seems that he was shooting high brass through a 5 round magazine and with each round, because the bore axis is lower than the stock axis, the spring loaded hinge started to compress and had it been a 6 round or more magazine it would have folded on him unexpectedly and doesn't seem to be safe....I may be an idiot though? lol has anyone else seen this possible issue amongst the many other issues with this monstrosity? I havent thought of it, but it could always be or become an issue. But to be honest, I wont give a fuck as I wont own one!!! Instead I'll bypass the potential issue and just get a better shotgun. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 I didn't notice any tendency to unlock. However, the whole stock is poorly thought out. I mentioned before that it has a sharp spur when folded. It's a work around to use an ace type hinge. That's fine, but the force is off plane with the hinge from both ends. (stock leverage, and thrust leverage.) That can put a lot of torque against that 1.25" square and the usual pair of 10-32 screws. Even if they used 4 screws, it's kinda sketchy. This all could have been dandy, if they had just mounted the hinge up at the top of the receiver where the top of the stock meets. For some reason though they put the stock axis high and the stock pivot point low. They were making it from scratch so there was no need to follow AK convention in this one point. This gun could have had a built in hinge with a 3-4" long pivot pin from the top of the receiver to the bottom. No wobble possible, stronger. A good example is the FN Scar. They made a strong hinge out of mostly plastic, by using a long pin to spread out torque over the whole back face of a tall receiver. The Origin has a very tall receiver, and a very small hinge point. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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thebuns1 4,323 Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 turd.jpg Epic photo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Nice magazines shitty shotgun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRhino 75 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 "Big ol scary drum"? More like, "what the hell is that guy doing with a car tire attached to that big ass gun?!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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