yurugu 0 Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 I have a curisoity question. Has anyone ever tried the "Dragons Breath" shotgun round. It's supposed to be like a 3 or 4 second flamethrower. The picture I saw had a flame shootin out almost 100 yds! Supposedly, (according to the advertisers) it will not harm the barrel in any way. Question two is can a round like that be shot out of a semiauto shotgun? I ask because if it burns for 3-4 seconds but is ejected from a semiauto in a micro second is the spent shell still going to be spewing out flames as it ejects? I have been curious about this for a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I dont think it has enough ass behind it to eject it from a semiauto shotty... As far as who has shot em... ask Bvamp... I think hes playted with these before... Theres a thread someplace on this already... buried deep... but I know its there... I dont even remember where to look for it, so I cant even tell you which thread to start with... sorry... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I have used the dragon breath (flamethrower round) from gunbroker seller ammotogo http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=42619475 i haven't shot it out of a semi-auto but i've shot it out of my pump and it didn't do anything to the barrel except made it all sorts of dirty. It cleans up just like new though in my 500 (not saying it dosen't in others but that is the only one i've shot it out of) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I've shot a couple through my 870 pump. Not really worth the money if you ask me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfighter 1 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Hello All, I tried these "flame rounds" in a Hi-Standard pump --- they SUCKED !!! My zippo had a bigger flame Total crap !!! Bird aka GF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ragnarock47 10 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Too bad, they sound like fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I have used the dragon breath (flamethrower round) from gunbroker seller ammotogo http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=42619475 i haven't shot it out of a semi-auto but i've shot it out of my pump and it didn't do anything to the barrel except made it all sorts of dirty. It cleans up just like new though in my 500 (not saying it dosen't in others but that is the only one i've shot it out of) Odd that the guy on Gunbroker is shipping his stuff UPS. There's another source, Firequest, with all sorts of special ammo, that insists shipping it via HAZMAT courier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jtoddellis 2 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Odd that the guy on Gunbroker is shipping his stuff UPS. There's another source, Firequest, with all sorts of special ammo, that insists shipping it via HAZMAT courier. UPS ships Hazmat items. Most of them cannot be shipped air though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Odd that the guy on Gunbroker is shipping his stuff UPS. There's another source, Firequest, with all sorts of special ammo, that insists shipping it via HAZMAT courier. UPS ships Hazmat items. Most of them cannot be shipped air though. Didn't know about UPS doing HAZMAT. Is that different than just ORM-D? Thanks. Learn something new every day on this forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaShooter 0 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Does anyone else see a flaw in usinga "flame thrower round" in a gas operated weapon? Something like fire coming back at the shooter from the gas system? Or am I just having a blonde moment? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
srd22250 0 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 The one's I shot several years ago were like roman candles... not any flames..... the bbl was dirty and cleaned up very well... no harm.... I shot them out of a pump, really don't think they would cycle in a semi.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Does anyone else see a flaw in usinga "flame thrower round" in a gas operated weapon? Something like fire coming back at the shooter from the gas system? Or am I just having a blonde moment? That's why I used a pump. Wouldn't wanna risk it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A|G 0 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I was foolish enough to try the Planet Ammo ones. Three out of the $17 three-pack were duds. A|G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 The internet guy is probably getting them from Hi-Vel. You can link to their site fron AA-OK. G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 They are more like a big sparkler than "flame" but i still have some since they do light up the night sky rather well (not as much as those rocket propeled flares). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 They are junk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jlseagull 0 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) They are junk. Site with some pics. Would look darn cool as a round to have as a "farewell" to any idiot trying to rob your house and run! Edited March 10, 2006 by jlseagull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twinhairdryers 2 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 They are junk. Site with some pics. Would look darn cool as a round to have as a "farewell" to any idiot trying to rob your house and run! I always thought these would be kind of a good gag load to hand in the middle of a mag to a buddy at the range. Kindof like the expoding cigarette load. I wonder if the range officer would think low of it? Better than shooting them in Florida in the summertime outdoors. Some nickleheads started a major fire with tracers out of an AR last summer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I'm sure if most shooting ranges discourage people from shooting up the target backing frames, they sure as h*ll don't want to see them set on fire either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twinhairdryers 2 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I'm sure if most shooting ranges discourage people from shooting up the target backing frames, they sure as h*ll don't want to see them set on fire either. I think you would tend to go through a lot of targets also at the pistol lanes. Every once in a while someone will sneak in a tracer in a mag. The range officers will ask them to check their ammo and not let it happen again. Kind of like if you are shooting shotgun, it's slugs only and you have bb size holes in your paper. Check your ammo warning. You would be escorted out quickly after one of these went off. Perhaps never to return again unless it was a bad hand load. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 the ones ive used I made myself from pure magnesium and sulpher on top of a small powder charge and worked alright if you want to run around with an indian tank putting out a fire. not legal in many states... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jlseagull 0 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I'm sure if most shooting ranges discourage people from shooting up the target backing frames, they sure as h*ll don't want to see them set on fire either. LOL. I'm sure most people's disappointment is from the fact that photos are typically taken at night with slow shutter speeds that blur the oxidizing metal to cause a bunch of "streaks" in the photo that look like a solid cone of flame, but would look nothing like that in real life. But it would be fun if the Saiga could cycle the rounds. Imagine the calls from the cabins across the lake if you let 9 off these off in a row! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 yeh no they dont look like the long exposure time shots you see the sellers showing. the ones i made were like a meter breaking up in orbit, is the easiest way to describe it, like scoutjoe is saying up above. good way to light a fire break, if you ask me... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 But it would be fun if the Saiga could cycle the rounds. Imagine the calls from the cabins across the lake if you let 9 off these off in a row! How come I have a mental picture of a cabin (or two?) going up in flames as you and your typical American male cabin neighbor across the lake try to outdo each other with those *Bitchin* Dragon's Breath displays? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 yeh no they dont look like the long exposure time shots you see the sellers showing. the ones i made were like a meter breaking up in orbit, is the easiest way to describe it, like scoutjoe is saying up above. good way to light a fire break, if you ask me... so the fire break you mean a fire line? as in something not to let the fire get across? the reason i ask is i was watching a movie in one of my classes where they were controling fire out west, and to light back fires from their fire line up to the fire...they used "special shotgun rounds" to light the backfires Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 yeh, you could probably light a fire line from a truck like that. wait, better not give the haji's starting all these fires any more ideas..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Christmas 1955 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 I heard these were used in 'nam to clear out the brush. Anyone ever heard of a military issued 'dragons breath' round? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whatmanual 44 Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Personally, I'd proably have more fun with "flare" 12 gauge rounds (IF they have enough to cycle the action on the S12 that is -otherwise oh well). It'd be like a nice roman candle for a signal or whatever (please shoot "up"). ~S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Personally, I'd proably have more fun with "flare" 12 gauge rounds (IF they have enough to cycle the action on the S12 that is -otherwise oh well). It'd be like a nice roman candle for a signal or whatever (please shoot "up"). ~S Heh heh thanks for the reminder! I've got a couple of old Olin kits in the basement with those flare pistols in them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davidsuffolk 96 Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Personally, I'd proably have more fun with "flare" 12 gauge rounds (IF they have enough to cycle the action on the S12 that is -otherwise oh well). It'd be like a nice roman candle for a signal or whatever (please shoot "up"). ~S Heh heh thanks for the reminder! I've got a couple of old Olin kits in the basement with those flare pistols in them! Over here, the IRA used to filll shotgun cases with soap shavings mixed with aluminiun pieces. I didn't ever see that myself but apparently they go off like napalm with lots of burning bits flying everywhere! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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