XD45 7,124 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Just came across this. If I wanted a legal fast-firing rifle, this would be it. A bit pricey at $495 msrp but then again, you'll go though hundreds of dollars in ammo pretty fast so cheapskates don't want this anyway. I'm definitely a cheapskate so won't be getting one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omBLIDuzLB4 Edited April 26, 2014 by Darth Saigus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Way better than 500 buckshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvr0rSaFgZE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 This will probably go the way of the Akins stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Way better than 500 buckshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvr0rSaFgZE Yeah, how many thousands of rounds of ammo did he go through to get that good? I'm figuring he spent a bit more than $500 getting that fast. It's good salesmanship to show a professional using your gear in ways that no normal person ever will. I can post a video of JM shooting a revolver just about that fast. Geissele makes great triggers. Maybe the best. But it's still just a crisp single stage trigger with a short reset. Nothing new about that. Now maybe the Tac Con is a gimmick. I don't know. But the concept for assisted reset is new and interesting. Edited April 26, 2014 by Darth Saigus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 It is interesting, but I pay 500 dollars for interesting guns I wouldn't pay that for an interesting trigger reset. That's just me, I'd like to try one though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brad cole 65 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 they have reported these suck and don't work. After shot show they hit the market not good on reviews. Most comparisons favor the geislee SD3G, which is one sweet trigger for half the price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) In todays market when you can get an entry ar for Around 500 not many people are willing to go that far for a trigger, But a lot of people spend 350 km a bump fire stock, so who knows. Edited April 26, 2014 by Ak Monty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) no way would I spend that kind of stupid money they're asking for on those triggers, or a stock. if I want to shoot fast, I'll just pull and release a regular trigger fast. the kind of money they're asking for those gizmos would be better spent on ammo Edited April 26, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 no way would I spend that kind of stupid money they're asking for on those triggers, or a stock. if I want to shoot fast, I'll just pull and release a regular trigger fast. the kind of money they're asking for those gizmos would be better spent on ammo +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Way better than 500 buckshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvr0rSaFgZE Yeah, how many thousands of rounds of ammo did he go through to get that good? I'm figuring he spent a bit more than $500 getting that fast. It's good salesmanship to show a professional using your gear in ways that no normal person ever will. I can post a video of JM shooting a revolver just about that fast. Geissele makes great triggers. Maybe the best. But it's still just a crisp single stage trigger with a short reset. Nothing new about that. Now maybe the Tac Con is a gimmick. I don't know. But the concept for assisted reset is new and interesting. Evl was trying to sell me on one for the same reasons, and I had roughly the same thoughts. I looked at closeup pictures of the trigger. It is their standard model with a slight alteration to two grinds. basically single stage with small engagement surface. The. obvious. things. anyone. doing. a .fine. race. trigger. would. do. I'm sure it is a fine trigger, but big upcharge for those changes. I also doubt it is significantly finer than other short reset triggers on the market, or those with a small amount of stoning to change the slip angle a half a degree or so. And the company makes a huge point of saying these are for comp only, and too fine for duty type carry... From experience with finer paintball triggers with zero recoil I can say that the vast majority of people with no practice can pull 5-6 shots/ second (not "walking"). with skill maybe 7. I'm probably in the 7-8 range with just my middle finger, and 16+ walking. I probably have hit spikes of ~18 cps for one second intervals, but I would say my cruising speed is 14-15 BPS and over the course of an average day of play, the gun will generally clock over 16 a few times. (bounce free, and with ultra low reciprocating mass) I'm well faster than the average regular player will achieve, and a little slower than the fastest. There have been many many competitions of people recording the fast they can do with triggers that have magnetic reset and a softer shorter throw than a mouse click and that's about what people get. So while there are exceptional individuals, they are clearly outliers. My point here is that even with triggers far better than the best firearm, that would be considered unsafe on any firearm, people trying purely for speed all seem to fall in the same band of capability. p.s. with a very fine mechanical PB gun with a double finger trigger that could almost be approached with a very fine rifle trigger in feel, I can do 11-12 if I concentrate. Not guaranteed every time, but I can do it. Quite a lot of people claim it is impossible to walk a gun of that type, and it is a touch better than the best firearm triggers are likely to get. Edited April 27, 2014 by GunFun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Not really worth it for ME, but if some people want one, more power to them. My Saiga 223 has a fairly short reset now (for an AK) and can fire as fast as I need it to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LuPiN8oR 333 Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 ...if these things hit a price point of 250 or less and get the bugs worked out of em they will fly off the shelves I bet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Nice and fun if one can $afford$ it, which I can not. Does Colt Industries sell a Gatling Gun in .45-70? Now that would be fun ... but also expensive! Way back when, I had a short term, part time job assembling Calico Twin Ruger 10-22 Kits that used a hand crank. It was fun, but now also would be ... too expensive. HB of CJ (old coot) Darn! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 srt marketed as a miracle on G-d's green earth! awesome. seems to me competition triggers have been around for a long time now. Nice and fun if one can $afford$ it, which I can not. Does Colt Industries sell a Gatling Gun in .45-70? Now that would be fun ... but also expensive! Way back when, I had a short term, part time job assembling Calico Twin Ruger 10-22 Kits that used a hand crank. It was fun, but now also would be ... too expensive.HB of CJ (old coot) Darn! they made an ak gatling kit as well. seen a m14 version at the gun show once. even on a ruger, that thing would crank out the lead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Nice and fun if one can $afford$ it, which I can not. Does Colt Industries sell a Gatling Gun in .45-70? Now that would be fun ... but also expensive! Way back when, I had a short term, part time job assembling Calico Twin Ruger 10-22 Kits that used a hand crank. It was fun, but now also would be ... too expensive. HB of CJ (old coot) Darn! I saw a couple .45-70 gatling guns at Knob Creek, they were about $45,000. Very good looking guns though, polished brass receivers, polished and blued octagon barrels. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 The Calico was very fun. This was way back when they had their factory on East 21st St. in the shitty city of Bakersfield CA. They also had a twin M1 Carbine model. Hand crank. I got to see but not assemble nor shoot the prototype mock up QUAD Ruger 10-22 Calico Gatling gun. There were also rumors of a QUAD M1 Carbine model as well, but I never saw that. At about this time the "Powers That Be" in and around Bakersfield CA and the Kommiefornika state of CA did not want Calico doing what they were doing. Not politically correct or something? Yep! This would be about the time the semi and select fire Calico helical feed 9mm model carbines and pistols came on line. They also had a semi auto .22rf carbine and pistol. Long ago and far away. I wonder if the big Gatling Gun guys hand load? HB of CJ (old coot) Happy New Year. Got to go. Party time. Stay safe, stay sober!! Have fun!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Nice and fun if one can $afford$ it, which I can not. Does Colt Industries sell a Gatling Gun in .45-70? Now that would be fun ... but also expensive! Way back when, I had a short term, part time job assembling Calico Twin Ruger 10-22 Kits that used a hand crank. It was fun, but now also would be ... too expensive. HB of CJ (old coot) Darn! I saw a couple .45-70 gatling guns at Knob Creek, they were about $45,000. Very good looking guns though, polished brass receivers, polished and blued octagon barrels. 142_3477.JPG just a few years back colt made a few reproductions that were about as expensive as a super car but we're just as beautiful I love those old Gatling guns thanks for sharing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'm very seriously considering getting the AK Raptor trigger from them. @ $349. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LuPiN8oR 333 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'm very seriously considering getting the AK Raptor trigger from them. @ $349. If you do, be sure to let us know how it works out for ya! I'm a little interested myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 why are people so obsessed with puking mags as fast as possible? I can see fast split times and transitions between targets all precisely aimed. But just burning ammo into nothing seems goofy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LuPiN8oR 333 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) why are people so obsessed with puking mags as fast as possible? I can see fast split times and transitions between targets all precisely aimed. But just burning ammo into nothing seems goofy I am definitely not interested in simply puking mags out as fast as I can. I am, however, interested in getting things that may end up on the atf's naughty list before they get there. I seriously have only bumpfired an ak once and saw it as a waste of ammo as well, particularly due to the lack of ability to aim. That being said, having a dedicated ak with that trigger pack in it would be kinda neat, especially if someone can aim with it and control how many rounds are being sent downrange. E.t.a: the ar version looks to be better from what I watched, seems you can run it like normal and then flip the selector for the assisted reset. With the ak version you just get assisted reset. Edited January 2, 2015 by LuPiN8oR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Way better than 500 buckshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvr0rSaFgZE VERY short reset. Passes function test. Looks good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meacri 0 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Legal select-fire trigger, BATF approved, 5.56 up…: I've heard of a "burst fire" mode where the the rifle fires when the trigger is pulled and released Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Mag dumps waste ammo 3-4 round controlled burst have value. You can find these street priced for $390 or less now. Way more functional than the novelty bump fire. I'm considering getting one for my colt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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