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SWAT Team Surrounds White Male Carrying 'Large Umbrella' on Campus
 
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by AWR Hawkins 23 Aug 2014, 11:52 AM PDT 41 post a comment 
On August 20, a possible gunman was reported on the campus of California State University San Marcos (CSUSM), and orders to "Shelter-In-Place" (S-I-P) were put out until a SWAT team finally surrounded their suspect, "a staff member carrying a large umbrella and carry bag." 

NBC 7 said, "The first report came in as a man with a long gun" walking on campus. 

After about 30 minutes of S-I-P, staff member Bill Craig realized he fit the description of the possible gunman and surrendered himself to police. A SWAT team surrounded Craig and determined he had no gun in his possession.

According to guns.com, Police released the following statement:

Earlier this morning there was a report to University Police of a possible gunman at CSUSM. The campus was immediately placed on lock down. Police performed a security sweep and determined that the suspect was not armed, but was a staff member carrying a large umbrella and carry bag. We are grateful for the quick response by our police officers to the perceived threat and to our campus community for their cooperation during the brief state of emergency.

 

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I'd be livid... Pointing rifles at me without damned good reason.
And you can see them pointing their weapons at other people.

They didn't observe first & see it wasn't a firearm?

An umbrella & a carry bag, are they blind & stupid?
No F'ing need to have weapons shouldered.

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I'd be livid... Pointing rifles at me without damned good reason.

And you can see them pointing their weapons at other people.

 

They didn't observe first & see it wasn't a firearm?

An umbrella & a carry bag, are they blind & stupid?

No F'ing need to have weapons shouldered.

Yeah. Me too. I see stupidity on all parties except for the victim. And cops wonder why they dont have a very high approval rating. Im surprised DHS wasnt there to search for ISIS.

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People dont seem to realize some basic facts.

 

If police are dispatched to a school for an armed man (long gun)

They absolutely HAVE to assume it is a real and correct call.

 

They cant just guess this guy does not have a gun in the bag.

I could put a lot of hardware in a bag that size

And they HAVE to treat it as a lethal threat to the students and themselves.

Anything less is gross irresponsibility.

 

You dont have to like it, you may not even be able to understand it.

 If the guy actually had bad intent, was armed and ready, and police walked up all friendly and UNPREPAIRED.

He could kill them all and go on to kill more in the school.

 

You dont take stupid chances with things like this

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In the wake of school shootings in the recent past, you can expect a robust response

These guys are only there to protect the kids  from potential harm.

 

there are plenty of real examples of cops that are bad

 

 

If you need to burn on cops, burn on the bastard rapist cop from OK that was just arrested.

 

Mail him to hell, I will buy the stamps!!!

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People dont seem to realize some basic facts.

 

If police are dispatched to a school for an armed man (long gun)

They absolutely HAVE to assume it is a real and correct call.

 

They cant just guess this guy does not have a gun in the bag.

I could put a lot of hardware in a bag that size

And they HAVE to treat it as a lethal threat to the students and themselves.

Anything less is gross irresponsibility.

 

You dont have to like it, you may not even be able to understand it.

 If the guy actually had bad intent, was armed and ready, and police walked up all friendly and UNPREPAIRED.

He could kill them all and go on to kill more in the school.

 

You dont take stupid chances with things like this

Not burning cops here, this is just over the top.

Bullshit, this was a "Man with a Gun" call, rifle/longarm, by some bleating sheep or student pranking or retribution on the guy.

Cops would be able to see its a fucking umbrella & call "No Joy, its a fucking umbrella guys."

So what he has a duffel or backpack, thousands of those walking around.

What, check'em all at the point of a rifle?

Bullshit! This shit is going too far.

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People dont seem to realize some basic facts.

 

If police are dispatched to a school for an armed man (long gun)

They absolutely HAVE to assume it is a real and correct call.

 

They cant just guess this guy does not have a gun in the bag.

I could put a lot of hardware in a bag that size

And they HAVE to treat it as a lethal threat to the students and themselves.

Anything less is gross irresponsibility.

 

You dont have to like it, you may not even be able to understand it.

 If the guy actually had bad intent, was armed and ready, and police walked up all friendly and UNPREPAIRED.

He could kill them all and go on to kill more in the school.

 

You dont take stupid chances with things like this

Not burning cops here, this is just over the top.

Bullshit, this was a "Man with a Gun" call, rifle/longarm, by some bleating sheep or student pranking or retribution on the guy.

Cops would be able to see its a fucking umbrella & call "No Joy, its a fucking umbrella guys."

So what he has a duffel or backpack, thousands of those walking around.

What, check'em all at the point of a rifle?

Bullshit! This shit is going too far.

 

If my kids were in that school...thats the response I would want.

 

Its ok if you disagree, people can have a point of view. including me.

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It seems like every other LEO carries tactical gear/weapons in their trunk, so this is likely not a dedicated SWAT unit.

I see multiple uniform styles from differing depts along with plainclothes.

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Didn't the Penguin have an umbrella gun, you can never be too sure this day in age.

 

 

Hilariously, the Penguin's AOW would be legal in Kali with the proper paperwork!

 

I don't see any pricing, but these look like they could be real... I sort of want one now!

 

http://penguinmunitions.webs.com/umbrellaweapons.htm

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Didn't the Penguin have an umbrella gun, you can never be too sure this day in age.

 

 

Hilariously, the Penguin's AOW would be legal in Kali with the proper paperwork!

 

I don't see any pricing, but these look like they could be real... I sort of want one now!

 

http://penguinmunitions.webs.com/umbrellaweapons.htm

 

I want one of those shotgun umbrellas ….how much and where.

It would make a nice companion to my cane sword. 

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Id also like to know who the fuck called them? People are fuckin stupid.

Its what happens when people have no idea about guns to begin with.

 

They're jut doing what they're told, "if you see something say something", Baaaaaaaa......Baaaaaaaaaa

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Id also like to know who the fuck called them? People are fuckin stupid.

Its what happens when people have no idea about guns to begin with.

I agree, If you see something.....: stupid .....and you say something, you should be held accountable.

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The cops overreacted. I can see it both ways, but in this case, they went way overboard. And honestly, pointing your weapon at the head of a man who has both open hands over his head and is completely surrounded is just FUCKING STUPID.  One fart and you kill an innocent man, and there is no way to undo dead.  

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Besides the "PERP" rolleyes.gif .......who the fuck are they pointing their guns at, aliens tinfoilhat.gif

Are you kidding?  Without sensible umbrella control they can't take chances.  Marry Poppins might be around every corner.

 

That picture disgusts me. 

 

He might have a gun in his bag?  So might every other human being in the country.  Does "reasonable suspicion" now extend to every bag or only those carried by umbrella carriers?

 

Fucking bullshit.

 

Somebody give those "heroes" some medals.

 

Fuck.

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Because this has become ubiquitous in the U.S. We now have the term "swated". So chilli may be on the right track. It was the first thing that I thought of. A student given a bad grade, or rival faculty member may have called. These fellows rush in with adrenaline in their blood. Their assholes puckered around their necks. Pointing loaded rifles at everyone. What happens when two cars collide because a driver is stareing at these poges. A car back fires or or tyre blows? It might have just been a nervous nelly. But it's comforting to know that if someone tics me off. I can just have them "swated".

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Didn't the Penguin have an umbrella gun, you can never be too sure this day in age.

 

 

Hilariously, the Penguin's AOW would be legal in Kali with the proper paperwork!

 

I don't see any pricing, but these look like they could be real... I sort of want one now!

 

http://penguinmunitions.webs.com/umbrellaweapons.htm

 

Kinda looks like bullshit, but I did poke around and found an email address: penguinarms@mailinator.com

 

 

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Because this has become ubiquitous in the U.S. We now have the term "swated". So chilli may be on the right track. It was the first thing that I thought of. A student given a bad grade, or rival faculty member may have called. These fellows rush in with adrenaline in their blood. Their assholes puckered around their necks. Pointing loaded rifles at everyone. What happens when two cars collide because a driver is stareing at these poges. A car back fires or or tyre blows? It might have just been a nervous nelly. But it's comforting to know that if someone tics me off. I can just have them "swated".

Comforting indeed.

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People dont seem to realize some basic facts.

 

If police are dispatched to a school for an armed man (long gun)

They absolutely HAVE to assume it is a real and correct call.

 

They cant just guess this guy does not have a gun in the bag.

I could put a lot of hardware in a bag that size

And they HAVE to treat it as a lethal threat to the students and themselves.

Anything less is gross irresponsibility.

 

You dont have to like it, you may not even be able to understand it.

 If the guy actually had bad intent, was armed and ready, and police walked up all friendly and UNPREPAIRED.

He could kill them all and go on to kill more in the school.

 

You dont take stupid chances with things like this

Judging by the pic, it seems that this could have been handled with however many cops with their hands on their weapons.

 

Let's be real here...  Sandy Hook didn't even happen.  9-11?  Three buildings fell into their own footprint!  Yeah right!  I hate to see LEO falling for all this bull shit to show the public that they are protecting us.  We don't need this kind of protection.

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