Sim_Player 1,939 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) Their FAQ was an interesting read. Their mention of the 1911 magazine design lends credibility to the story of the pistol magazine being loaded for decades and still functioning. Good discussion. I'm curious to know if any of those springs, that Jim has, could be rehabilitated through heat-treating, etc. It sounds like a fun experiment. Edited December 29, 2014 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 This thread has a little spring in its step. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) Juggs, consider yourself reported to yourself for abusive comments. Besides, we have to have something to talk about other than how bad the gov is and how bad black people are and how bad muzzies are and how bad cops are and how bad the media is and how bad... Edited December 29, 2014 by Darth Saigus 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 At least it's about guns!! LOL!! Much Love, Brother... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Cause if you're loading them to full capacity, you're damaging the springs. I know you might think that if they're made to hold 30 then it must be OK to put 30 in there, but a "gun expert" told me today that I'm ruining my magazines. He must be right. After all he's an expert. He told me so. Ha! He's so high speed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Their FAQ was an interesting read. Their mention of the 1911 magazine design lends credibility to the story of the pistol magazine being loaded for decades and still functioning. Good discussion. I'm curious to know if any of those springs, that Jim has, could be rehabilitated through heat-treating, etc. It sounds like a fun experiment heat treat does not fix metal fatigue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Gaddis told me ALL his magazines are ruined..... The pages are all stuck together! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Gawd knows what his keyboard looks like. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Redrum4u 125 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 So I should take the springs out of all mags then, hammer spring? I think I'll completely dissemble everything and pack in cosmoline just to be safe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Damn, busted again. Gaddis told me ALL his magazines are ruined..... The pages are all stuck together! Says the guy posting the porno mag selfie. Scary thing is is that this almost looks like what was on the screen on the supposedly NIB tablet I bought at Wal Mart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 Valve springs - especially the racing variety are under many times more stress than gun mag springs. Some mags have better made springs than others. EDC is hard on ammo and mags, as well as everything else. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has at LEAST one! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Sim_Player 1,939 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Their FAQ was an interesting read. Their mention of the 1911 magazine design lends credibility to the story of the pistol magazine being loaded for decades and still functioning. Good discussion. I'm curious to know if any of those springs, that Jim has, could be rehabilitated through heat-treating, etc. It sounds like a fun experiment heat treat does not fix metal fatigueMetal fatigue and relaxation (due to use (heat/use)) are two different issues.(I found several good research studies online concerning the different reasons why metal springs fail.) Love your posts Jim, I'm in your corner. Edited December 30, 2014 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 Thanks Sim. Sometimes I think its a waste of time and effort to try and pass on technical information here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Thanks Sim. Sometimes I think its a waste of time and effort to try and pass on technical information here. Roger. Apparently. Edited December 30, 2014 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 These threads are always frustrating for me, after each post I load or unload all of my mags, just to find that after the next post I need to reload them all again. I don't know what to do anymore. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 Our military stores loaded mags for decades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 when I get home from work I also remove the coil springs from my vehicles, loosen the valve rockers, and drain all the oil from my engine and store it indoors to keep it at room temperature to avoid wear associated dry starts. at some point you just have to ask how much you care about stuff wearing out. everything wears out. how long does it take is the only question. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) when I get home from work I also remove the coil springs from my vehicles, loosen the valve rockers, and drain all the oil from my engine and store it indoors to keep it at room temperature to avoid wear associated dry starts. Your vehicles must last a lifetime These threads are always frustrating for me, after each post I load or unload all of my mags, just to find that after the next post I need to reload them all again. I don't know what to do anymore. Just do what I did……buy more mags and keep half loaded and the other half not. Then you can have your cake and eat it too. Edited December 30, 2014 by SHOTGUN MESSIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 I don't know. I don't really give a fuck anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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csspecs 1,987 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 Pistol mags and rifle mags are slightly different animals. Normally pistol magazines springs are overly compressed within the body when loaded, its an effort to get more rounds in a smaller space trading spring life for capacity. Also pistol magazines normally have rounds feeding on an angle rather than most rifle magazines that are constant curve or compensated straight. This difference requires that the rounds sit in a very specific way under a specific tension to generate the correct feed angle. Another factor is ammunition. Ammo that is carried daily is likely exposed to a lot of humidity, this will change how well it cycles. A good part of the long term loaded magazine problems are likely related to damaged ammo more than worn out springs. Steel changes as it ages. The elements combined to make steel do slowly change and react over the years, in fact some parts have to be processed out of steel that is no more than a few weeks past processing. So springs can slowly weaken depending on the alloy used in their production and how they are made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 This topic needs to be taken on by Mythbusters. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) when I get home from work I also remove the coil springs from my vehicles, loosen the valve rockers, and drain all the oil from my engine and store it indoors to keep it at room temperature to avoid wear associated dry starts. at some point you just have to ask how much you care about stuff wearing out. everything wears out. how long does it take is the only question. This is how we all feel and ponder. We all set limits based on the best information available. Edited January 2, 2015 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 This topic needs to be taken on by Mythbusters. Ah yes...Mythbusters... The final arbiters and authority on all things. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 It don't matter for my AK, as it belongs in the trash. FWIW, my mags stay loaded. That's based on my experience, and not theoretical physics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) When the time comes that you need your loaded mags you may not have time to load your mags. NUFF SAID. Edited January 2, 2015 by SHOTGUN MESSIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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