johnny_boy 0 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) Didn't know if anyone had seen these yet. What do you think? http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/index.p...products_id=369 Edited October 29, 2008 by johnny_boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoQuota 0 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 The one they have "pictured" is for the 308 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny_boy 0 Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 thought it looked pretty small to be 12 rnds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarvKY 72 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I believe Nathan posted that it was just a 308 pic he threw up there to give folks an idea. Same brand so probably will look similar eh? Cheers, HarvKY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twistedpsyche 0 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Anyone got any details on these? Are they a double stack or a single? If they're a single that's gonna be a really long mag... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ernestmayhand 10 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Yah I haven't heard word on if it's double or single stack. To me, if it's single I'll stick with my AGP 10 rounders as they are long enough but if they're double now I'm interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
segasaiga 0 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I wonder if itll have a last round bolt hold open like the pictured surefire 308 mag has? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 If these end up being double stacked,.. that will be so sweet me likey,.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Don't ya'll get your hopes up too high there for a double stack. They are single stack from what I've heard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GPalmer 1 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 MAA said they are single stack in their thread on the topic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Rimmed cartridges do not reliably work in a double stack mag configuration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sudaevpps43 31 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Rimmed cartridges do not reliably work in a double stack mag configuration. It has been done before with rifles. The British Enfield and Russian SVD both have double stack magazines that take rimmed cartridges (.303 British in the Enfield and 7.62 x 54R in the SVD), and both these firearms have excellent reputations for reliability. Though I do have no doubt designing a reliable double stack magazine for a rimmed cartridge is a significant design challenge (I heard it took Evgeniy Dragunov a year to design the SVD's magazine). Of course bottle-shaped rifle cartridges, even rimmed ones, are easier to feed than the blocky shape of a shotgun shell. Still, I think a reliable double-stack shotgun mag is possible, though with the MD-20 drum now available for those who want a lot of capacity, I'm not sure there would be much of a market for it even if it could be made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Rimmed cartridges do not reliably work in a double stack mag configuration. It has been done before with rifles. The British Enfield and Russian SVD both have double stack magazines that take rimmed cartridges (.303 British in the Enfield and 7.62 x 54R in the SVD), and both these firearms have excellent reputations for reliability. Yes, those do use a double stack mag, and if you load them by hand and don't do it right, you lock 'em up pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 if you load them by hand and don't do it right, you lock 'em up pretty good. Been there, done that with the PSL *ONCE*.... and ONLY ONCE!!!! Had to take the floorplate off, and the spring out cause it was a bitch to get the next shell low enough to make the top shell go over the rim below it... Was just easier to pop the floorplate, drop it all out, and go at it again, after reassembly! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stiletto raggio 20 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 I think a double stack magazine can be done, especially considering how small the rim on a 12 gauge is compared to the overall diameter of the shell. Of course, it would have to be a double-stack, single-feed because of the receiver design of the Saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kellysguy 1 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Last thing we need is a longer mag. What's next, a 50rnd SS mag !?!?!?!?!?!?!? Gonna look like that stupid 100 rnd AK stick mag. I might............might be interested if it is quality similar to the factory mags. Otherwise why bother? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GhostStan 2 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 we need good quality 8 round mags Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Last thing we need is a longer mag. What's next, a 50rnd SS mag !?!?!?!?!?!?!? Gonna look like that stupid 100 rnd AK stick mag. I might............might be interested if it is quality similar to the factory mags. Otherwise why bother? Kind of like AA's 30 rnd pizza plate? Now watch those assclowns come up with a mag! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hallboss 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) I've been talking to a guy that has seen one of those and told me the quality is better that AGP and they have notches in the case to be able to remove the floorplate, cut it off to the capacity you want and slide the floorplate back on. I want to check them out when he gets them in December. $47.00, I don't know what they are going for anywhere else though. Edited November 18, 2008 by hallboss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sudaevpps43 31 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 From what I have heard of on Surefire's .308 Saiga rifle magazines and recently introduced Saiga .410 shotgun magazines, the material quality of their magazines is generally considered good (not quite as solid as russian factory Saiga mags, but then again whose aftermarket mags are?). However, Surefire seems to have trouble in making the shape of their magazine followers and feed lips exactly replicate that of the Russian factory magazines, as both their Saiga .308 and .410 mags had mixed reviews for reliability. I of course hope these new Saiga 12 magazines of theirs do work reliably, and if they do I would definitely be getting some specifically due to their ability to be easily modified to a shorter and more practical height, but I will wait for some user feedback on them first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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