dssbob 0 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 So I finally got my baby completed heres the pic: The big problem is this. The muzzel brake when screwed on is at an angle! It appears that the barrel was threaded at an angle and when the brake is installed its TOTALLY noticeable and probably dangerous. If you look at this pic you can see the top right of the barrel is fat while the bottom left is thin WTF is going on with this?!!! Is it fixable?? Any suggestions or ideas?? This is really bumming me out after spending all this time and money on getting it just right to find something that I dont think I can fix. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Did you cut the threads or are they factory? 19" barrel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 just clamp the brake in a vise and bend it straight,..barrel and all,.. Just kidding about that,.. Hmmm can you tell if it is because of the brake or the barrel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dssbob 0 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) 19" factory threads. I think its the barrel but I dont know. I'm going to try and find another brake and test but I dont think it will make a difference. I'm scared to shoot the damn thing. The bending thing was funny...thought about it for like 2 seconds Edited February 11, 2009 by dssbob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 It's a problem with the way the barrel was made (extruded, I think) and it's been happening for years. That's the worst I've seen posted, but Tony has made comments on it more than a few times. I think the only proper way to correct it is to cut off the threads, have the barrel turned on center, and re-threaded as long as there's enough material to work with. KingArmory has also posted a thread regarding an aftermarket barrel in the future. Bummer ) : Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknast76 2 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) What is your serial number? Looks like you got a double vodka special. Sorry man, 6500rpm said it first, KingArmory is working on USA made barrels. Edited February 11, 2009 by jacknast76 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 That IS a bad one. I'm not sure, but maybe it could be a warranty repair. Get in touch with CGW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmorgan 2 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 So I finally got my baby completed heres the pic: The big problem is this. The muzzel brake when screwed on is at an angle! It appears that the barrel was threaded at an angle and when the brake is installed its TOTALLY noticeable and probably dangerous. WTF is going on with this?!!! Is it fixable?? Any suggestions or ideas?? This is really bumming me out after spending all this time and money on getting it just right to find something that I dont think I can fix. Thanks Hmmmm, who did you buy the gun from ? I know that you have already made the modifications to the gun but you might contact the seller and explain the problem and see if they will make it right some how. Repair or replace the gun, of course if you relace it's back to the drawing board for the conversion but it beats a KABOOM !!! The worst they can say is no and if they go that rout you might want to explain to them that you would then need to vent your frustration on this and other forums and I don't think a honest and reliable dealer will want that. Just my .02 worth Good Luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dssbob 0 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 It's a problem with the way the barrel was made (extruded, I think) and it's been happening for years. That's the worst I've seen posted, but Tony has made comments on it more than a few times.I think the only proper way to correct it is to cut off the threads, have the barrel turned on center, and re-threaded as long as there's enough material to work with. KingArmory has also posted a thread regarding an aftermarket barrel in the future. Bummer ) : If the threads are cut off and re-threaded isnt the barrel under the limit then, thus requiring paperwork? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 It's a problem with the way the barrel was made (extruded, I think) and it's been happening for years. That's the worst I've seen posted, but Tony has made comments on it more than a few times.I think the only proper way to correct it is to cut off the threads, have the barrel turned on center, and re-threaded as long as there's enough material to work with. KingArmory has also posted a thread regarding an aftermarket barrel in the future. Bummer ) : If the threads are cut off and re-threaded isnt the barrel under the limit then, thus requiring paperwork? It;s a 19" barrel, how much do the threads take up? You could also have your muzzle device (Cameron, Tony, Polychoke) permanently attached. 1911 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dssbob 0 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 So I finally got my baby completed heres the pic: The big problem is this. The muzzel brake when screwed on is at an angle! It appears that the barrel was threaded at an angle and when the brake is installed its TOTALLY noticeable and probably dangerous. WTF is going on with this?!!! Is it fixable?? Any suggestions or ideas?? This is really bumming me out after spending all this time and money on getting it just right to find something that I dont think I can fix. Thanks Hmmmm, who did you buy the gun from ? I know that you have already made the modifications to the gun but you might contact the seller and explain the problem and see if they will make it right some how. Repair or replace the gun, of course if you relace it's back to the drawing board for the conversion but it beats a KABOOM !!! The worst they can say is no and if they go that rout you might want to explain to them that you would then need to vent your frustration on this and other forums and I don't think a honest and reliable dealer will want that. Just my .02 worth Good Luck I'll contact the dealer, but I wont hold my breath. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dssbob 0 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 so if there are no US made barrels is it possible to buy a factory replacement barrel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csmw 98 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Your bore is not concentric with the OD of the bbl. That should make your muzzle-brake non-concentric, NOT tilted. Are you sure it is the bbl threaded at an angle and not the new muzzle-brake? If it is indeed the bbl, one easy option would be to lathe the OD of the muzzle inline with the bore (removing the threads) and then press-fitting or silver soldering on a new brake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dssbob 0 Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Your bore is not concentric with the OD of the bbl. That should make your muzzle-brake non-concentric, NOT tilted. Are you sure it is the bbl threaded at an angle and not the new muzzle-brake? If it is indeed the bbl, one easy option would be to lathe the OD of the muzzle inline with the bore (removing the threads) and then press-fitting or silver soldering on a new brake. No I'm not 100% its the barrel but I dont have another brake on hand to test it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csmw 98 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 No I'm not 100% its the barrel but I dont have another brake on hand to test it. Until you know, you can't fix it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 If the brake screws on with a wobble, it is the break. If the break screws on at the same angle without wobbling it is the break. That barrel is bored WAY off, or the threads are canted badly. I would suggest trying for a factory repair. The only other way is to get it threaded for screw chokes (internal) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcFault 4 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Its your barrel, your pics are consistent with that problem, listen to Bob, call CGW. Don't spend more money on another brake until you have talked to Tom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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dssbob 0 Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Im going to call CGW to see about a factory repair, but if thats not an option does anyone know of anyone in the St. Louis area that does good work? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dssbob 0 Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Im going to call CGW to see about a factory repair, but if thats not an option does anyone know of anyone in the St. Louis area that does good work?Thanks OR heres a leap.....anyone have a 19in threaded barrel for sale? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lipadj46 2 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I'll contact the dealer, but I wont hold my breath. Contact Clyde at RAA directly. Don't bother with your dealer. I am sure RAA will pay for warranty work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csmw 98 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Bring it by the shop. I won't work on it (don't have time), but I can tell you for sure what the issue is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Holy shit, that is way off. You need to measure the wall thickness on the thin side, then measure the bore ID. Take the thin-side wall thickness, double it, and add the bore ID. If it is less then .850, you're fucked. If you turn the muzzle on centers to true it up, you'll be too thin to thread it M22x.75 Tony Rumore Tromix Corp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dssbob 0 Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Holy shit, that is way off. You need to measure the wall thickness on the thin side, then measure the bore ID. Take the thin-side wall thickness, double it, and add the bore ID. If it is less then .850, you're fucked. If you turn the muzzle on centers to true it up, you'll be too thin to thread it M22x.75 Tony Rumore Tromix Corp Ok...Now that the Big Guns have weighed in I know I'm fucked. I'm going to take it to C&S and have Matt take a look to make sure its not the brake. Since its looking like a barrel issue and Tony says it might not be able to be turned if not covered under warranty it looks like my only option is to cut it down. Man this suck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Sorry man....didn't mean to fuck up your day........ Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmorgan 2 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I'll contact the dealer, but I wont hold my breath. Contact Clyde at RAA directly. Don't bother with your dealer. I am sure RAA will pay for warranty work. ++1 on that Bob, Clyde is a class act as far as I have seen and I would bet that he'll do SOMETHING to try and make this right for ya. Make the call brother ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Not to add even more rain, but I thought RAAC warranty work is only done on guns that have not been modified. At least, that's what I thought I read. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmorgan 2 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Not to add even more rain, but I thought RAAC warranty work is only done on guns that have not been modified. At least, that's what I thought I read. Maybe so but the worst he can do is say no right ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Not to add even more rain, but I thought RAAC warranty work is only done on guns that have not been modified. At least, that's what I thought I read. Maybe so but the worst he can do is say no right ? You're right. I was just throwing that out there, because I'm pretty sure I remember reading that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MEGALODON 0 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I don't think this is a problem at all. The gun is begging you to make it a SBS is all. Have Tony cut 11" off the bad end and all is good! Sounds like a very easy decision to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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