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#1 Risky

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:49 AM

Anyone know anything about these? Came across this by complete accident...

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:17 PM

Yeah there was a thread about them a while ago; I think it started over their SKS bullpup or maybe it was the Mosin bullpup.
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:43 PM

Hi Guys; I've been watching these for awhile,I e-mailed Bernie Rolfe (owner) he said they have a production run going and we could get in on it.Surprised nobody here really knows anything about them; i'm concerned whether its vaporware but the website shows a lot of models.ANY info would be helpful.
Thanks Astrowrench :smoke: Also they have other S-12 models and AK models which i believe would fit converted rifles?

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 01:07 PM

Like I said, we do know all about them: Bullpup thread
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 04:24 PM

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Kalashnikovs are not bullpups.. and attempts to make them so are clumsy at best. If you want a bullpup, buy a weapon that was designed that way.
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 04:30 PM

Kalashnikovs are not bullpups.. and attempts to make them so are clumsy at best. If you want a bullpup, buy a weapon that was designed that way.


Now, that is something I can agree with you on!

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 06:16 PM


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Kalashnikovs are not bullpups.. and attempts to make them so are clumsy at best. If you want a bullpup, buy a weapon that was designed that way.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 08:58 PM

This is just more proof that just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do something.


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Posted 01 December 2010 - 05:06 AM

But really who's to say what you should or shouldn't do? Your opinion is not fact. Personally I am on the fence about THAT design with a few stipulations: must accept the corrected/restored trigger group, be black, available without 300 mall ninja pic rails, and actually be in production/circulation. I refuse to spend $300 to be a guinea pig. Once my stipulations are met I will decide.

To the clumsy ergos statement: I agree the charging handle will be awkward however mag changes would be easier. Again I am on the fence.

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 05:52 AM

Anyone know anything about these? Came across this by complete accident...


I don't like the barrel shroud; but the PG part is cool. I might pick one of these up at some point.. seems like a great way to decrease the OAL w/o going through the NFA stuff.. I'd just get the main part and maybe put some other shroud on it, if it needs weight up front for the balance.

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 06:15 AM

But really who's to say what you should or shouldn't do? Your opinion is not fact.

Yes it is.

It's gonna be mighty tough to adjust your gas plug don't you think?

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 08:54 AM

That front part where the bipod is attached is optional.

*Added. Their website also says that they have a gas plug adjustment tool available.



But really who's to say what you should or shouldn't do? Your opinion is not fact.

Yes it is.

It's gonna be mighty tough to adjust your gas plug don't you think?


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Posted 01 December 2010 - 02:42 PM

Looks like crap to me! Of what purpose is the stepped top rail? Would not a flat top rail give a longer sight radius for BUIS? Also the Laser could be dropped onto rail just above the barrel and in front of the Gas plug. A Tac-47 plug would aleviat most of the plug issues except remove for cleaning.

It's a show peice, NOT for real use.

Sorry, just a little touchy there, lol.

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 03:42 PM

I'm completely offended by this particular company because they did not even at least attempt to design a bull-pup stock (which still would be shit but at least not this shitty) but instead they just decide to make a big, clunky, generic "metal taco" that can sandwich a Mosin/SKS/S-12 :lolol:
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Posted 01 December 2010 - 03:56 PM

Are they custom made or are they parts from a washing machine? I know, they're from one of those BIY entertainment centers from Ikea.:lolol:

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 03:12 AM

That front part where the bipod is attached is optional.

*Added. Their website also says that they have a gas plug adjustment tool available.




But really who's to say what you should or shouldn't do? Your opinion is not fact.

Yes it is.

It's gonna be mighty tough to adjust your gas plug don't you think?


Oh!!!
A special tool to lose!
That makes it all good. :rolleyes:

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 01:09 AM

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 04:58 PM

:up: me likey...........!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 07:42 PM

Not new. This one is better than their other one, which I think the also still offer, but still ugly (IMHO) and very bulky. I own and like bullpups but as others have said shoehorning an AK into that format gives less than ideal results. I wouldn't mind an S12 bullpup just for a gee wiz gun and since I already have other S12s. It would need to look a lot better than that though.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:51 PM

does this bullpup kit work with saiga 7.62 rifles?



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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:18 AM

Center balanced rifle systems. Been around longer than the kush. A bit more expensive but nice design.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:42 AM

does this bullpup kit work with saiga 7.62 rifles?

anybody have an answer?



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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:58 PM

Yes, read above. Cbrps.com



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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:36 PM

that doesn't answer my question. I've been to the website and I don't see anything there about a Saiga 7.62. but that doesn't necessarily mean that it won't work with the Saiga 7.62.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:16 AM

Scroll down on the first page, it's near the bottom. I imagine any of the AK kits will work with a converted Saiga.



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:10 AM

Thats more of what i was looking for. thank you. but can anyone prove this to be 100% true?




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