NoLimit 1 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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NoLimit 1 Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Yeah I didn't think I could ever go wrong with HP rounds. Just got to thinking and wasn't sure about the 62GR. I think my S12 is a Arsenal but my .223 is not either way sure hope they get off their butts I need that ammo by this weekend! I wish I could have ordered everything I got from the same company but I unfortunately had to go through 3 different companies to get my order in. Thanks for the info Koljec! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dorky_D 8 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Where did you get it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoLimit 1 Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Dorky D - PM SENT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g21322635 2 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 62 grain is bigger and you know better cause army went in with nato and they decided to use the 62 grain and it shoots decent. The jacket is usually to thick on the bullet for it to mushroom just makes a nice splat. YMMV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
christcorp 26 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Wolf in the pseudo name given to the importer. It's russian steel case ammo. Nothing wrong with it at all. I shoot primarily russian steel case ammo in all my .223. Including my AR15's. You just aren't going to reload it. And because it's steel case, it doesn't expand as well as brass. Therefor, you get a little more blowback along the side of the case. TRANSLATION: It dirties the chamber a little more. Just clean the rifle more often. Oh; and for what it's worth, the barrel twist on a saiga .223 isn't 1:8. It's 1:9. Actually, it's a little over 1:9, but closer to 1:9 than 1:10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Herter's, Tula, and Wolf all work pretty well in the 62gr weight in my Saiga. It's also pretty good in my AR-15 (don't tell the mall ninjas). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dorky_D 8 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 I just bought 1000 round of this for $209 plus $12 Shipping! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrSaiga223 1 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 I use the Wolf/TulaAmmo steel cased stuff in my Saiga and it seems to perform decent. The only other stuff I have used in it was the American Eagle 223 and the steel cased ammo outperformed it in my Saiga, but not in my AR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Kenny 144 Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 62-grain .223 bullets don't stabilize well with a 1 in 12" twist (it's why the Army couldn't use SAW ammo in M16A1s). I'm not sure how well they'll do with a 1 in 9+" or whatever the standard is for Saigas. Long bullets like more twist, say, 1 in 7". Should be fine for shorter ranges, out to about 200 yards. beyond that, I need a range report! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
abz400 3 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 were did you order it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dorky_D 8 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 PM sent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DFM56 1 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I would like to know as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m1key 7 Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) My Saigas (16 and 21) like 62 Soft Point better than 62 HP. However, they do shoot Wolf 75HP very accurately... M Edited June 1, 2011 by m1key Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dorky_D 8 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Ok, I went to the range with my 62 grain Tula HP. It was a jam session. I think it is a combination of the HPs and my Tapco Galil mags. The Tapcos work fine with 55 grain FMH Brown Bear and PMC, but the HPs kept hitting the chamber face about every 3 rounds. I could pull back the bolt and let go, and it was fine to shoot, but I am going to have to do something. I thing the Tapco Galil mags may sit a tad low and contributing to the issue. I am going to suck it up and get some Circle 10 mags to try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swells08 128 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Ok, I went to the range with my 62 grain Tula HP. It was a jam session. I think it is a combination of the HPs and my Tapco Galil mags. The Tapcos work fine with 55 grain FMH Brown Bear and PMC, but the HPs kept hitting the chamber face about every 3 rounds. I could pull back the bolt and let go, and it was fine to shoot, but I am going to have to do something. I thing the Tapco Galil mags may sit a tad low and contributing to the issue. I am going to suck it up and get some Circle 10 mags to try. I have not had any time to try my tapco galil but I will now to see if I get the same issues... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead7544 35 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 It will work just fine in a 1 in 9 twist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dorky_D 8 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I had not had any issues with the Galil mags before. They have worked for me up until this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CPE1704TKS 24 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 For those looking for Herter's .223, Cabela's has 55 and 62 gr FMJ and HP on sale for $3.79/20 with fifty cent shipping for orders over $99. Sale ends 9/26/2011. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vais01 3 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Saigas are commonly 1:9.5 twist but the bore dimensions are on the tighter side. Bi-metal bullets and steel core bullets tend to be longer than traditional bullets due to steels lesser density. The plus is the longer bullet can increase the ballistic coefficient and increase the performance and accuracy at longer distances. As far as the 62gr HP its a trail and error situation but if your gun likes it keep using it. Small side note the powder and charge weight on that ammo is fairly inconsistent so expect a greater chance of fliers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dorky_D 8 Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I have almost decided (that sounds authoritative doesn't it), that it might be an action issue rather than a bullte issue. It may be a combination of the 2 actually. Follow this logic... I think it may be the bolt carrier is dragging a bit, and slowing down before closing. When I hand cycle, there are no issues, but I am also pulling the carrier all the way back. If the TULA is a little underpowered, or inconsistent as you say, this could cause the bolt to not go all the way back or back far enough. When I have had jams, I can often pull the handle back and re-cycle the round that got stuck. I got some circle 10 mags and I am having the issue, but not as bad. I re-filed a couple of them and now I have 2 of the 4 100%. 1 I will say is probably 100%, but I would not bet my life on it. I have taken a look at the other, and tried to get it more consistent with the others. I think it will be good. I have allso polished the bolt bottom, and the carrier, and the hammer. I did just a little light sanding (nothing read aggressive) and then used a wheel on my Dremel that is like a stiff Scotch Brite pad. I smoothed out the surfaces. I also applied some Militec to the inards to see if this will help. I will let you know what I find. I have heard that the Tapco G2 hammer sits a tad higher. It probably does not make as big of a difference on a 7.62 x 39 with the increased recoil, but it may on my .223. I think this will take care of it, but I will have to see. I should be going this weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wpflgun 3 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Mine loves all I have shot in it. My favorite is Silver Bear 62gr HP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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