Mr.BlahX3 12 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Yes, I did. I am trying to drill it out and go one size larger but the tap was made of kryptonite I think. So, HELP!!! Should I leave it and drill another hole in the bullet guide? (I know no one here has done this but maybe you have a friend that did it?) Thanks to all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Straydog 18 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Take a punch and hammer and smack the broken piece of tap, it will break out then just retap 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TJohn 8 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Straydog is right, hammer and punch is the best way to remove a broken tap, they are really brittle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.BlahX3 12 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I did try that, I will try some more. Thank you for your help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
semper299 284 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I did the same thing. I used JB Weld steel, then refinished the gun in Nurells. The bullet guide is not a high impact item on the gun, and mine has held up just fine, and looks like it was stock on the gun. Now, having said that, I would much rather have it tapped, but I screwed that up, and this is the second best option, IMHO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sly762 4 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 JB WELD AS WELL! IT WORKS GREAT I DONT KNOW WHY EVERYONE DOSENT USE IT! My next conversion Im only using jb weld. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogunner 240 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I don't use JB weld because I evidently have the ability to drill and tap the hole without breaking the tap... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I don't use JB weld because I evidently have the ability to drill and tap the hole without breaking the tap... Also helps to have the right handle, http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=17323/pid=6880/Product/T-HANDLE-TAP-WRENCH?utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_source=googlebase&mc_id=10000&gdftrk=gdfV21820_a_7c187_a_7c3466_a_7c395311001_d_395311001_d_11629 5 bucks either way 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
naturalcracker 3 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Sometimes the tap can be unscrewed with a very sharp pair of needle nose pliers or surgical picks. The try to re-tap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Crappy filler in the breech of a firearm WILL fubar. Not MAY - WILL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brandon402 86 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I don't use JB weld because I evidently have the ability to drill and tap the hole without breaking the tap... Also helps to have the right handle, http://www.brownells...5311001_d_11629 5 bucks either way amen to this... those stupid handles that come in those tap/die kits suck for this type of job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.BlahX3 12 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Yes if I had used a good handle this probably would have gone better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Straydog 18 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Keep workin at it it will come out with a sharp punch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Yes if I had used a good handle this probably would have gone better. Sorry man, that came off like a backseat driver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joshman 4 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I broke my tap as well, then I used JB Weld. Wow what an easy way of doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.BlahX3 12 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Yes if I had used a good handle this probably would have gone better. Sorry man, that came off like a backseat driver. No problem, you are right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Straydog 18 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I have used JB Weld on numerous things from Harley primarys to tractor carbs and know first hand that chemicals and heat will errode the chemical bond. I would not trust it personally but that is your choice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HBrebel 5 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I don't know if you had any luck but if not just take your receiver to a local machine shop, they can usually fix that stuff for about $20 or a six pack after hours Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbanzai 113 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I dunno...maybe hit it with freeze spray (-62F) before you start pounding on it again with a hammer and punch...maybe use a smaller diameter mill bit on a drill press to get rid of most of it, and then the cold spray before the punch. Whatever you do, I'd find a different way than JB...no offense to those who've used it, but that stuff is gonna fail when you need it most. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjj342 632 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I know it sucks, but if you really want this thing to last (im assuming you do), you need to spend some extra money, and not just the 6 dollars for JBweld either. Figure out the next size up, buy the drill bit, tap (even if you have to buy a small set), handle and screw. This little part makes or breaks the function of your rifle. Its really not something to half ass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikebaker1129 19 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I used a shot of non ozone depleting R134 A on a tap that I broke on something at work, and like mentioned before a punch and hammer.Somehow,I had the thought of cold and brittle and some things when cold shatter like glass.I did get it out ,but it was a pain,it was broke off deep . One the 2 bullet guides that I drilled and tapped,I went very very slow and used cutting fluid and backed them off fequently to break the chips.I first used an automatic center punch on the trunnion to keep the bit from walking. I used a cheap cordless drill.I would love to have used the drill press at work but my employer does not allow firearms on the property(Gov't). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy21 18 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 i will probably use jb weld on my bullet guide, along with a 6-32 that is red lock tited in. Jb weld alone? Forget about it, it may work, but i would always be worried that it would give out right when i need the gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjj342 632 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) i will probably use jb weld on my bullet guide, along with a 6-32 that is red lock tited in. Jb weld alone? Forget about it, it may work, but i would always be worried that it would give out right when i need the gun. Just make sure before you make it permanent, that you run a few hundred rounds over it. Once you are comfortable the guide is doing its job, then lock it in place. . Edited May 7, 2012 by Boomsick42 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.BlahX3 12 Posted May 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Thank you all. Going to go up one size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twoskinsoneman 72 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I did it. Twice. Check out this latest thread on it http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/77090-who-else-has-had-bullet-guide-hole-tapping-issues/ Do I little research on the proper drill for the screw thread. I found the the drill sent with the tap I bought was on the small end of appropriate drills for the tap size. You can drill for a "free fit" or for a "close fit". Drilling with the bigger of the two fixed my problem and left a good tight fit. A drop of threadlock and don't expect to ever have a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) Blah blah blah JB Weld is evil and will get your dog pregnant. Sheesh... Seen screws come loose, break, etc etc etc but folks use the crap out of them. Just do a good job with whatever you choose and it will be fine. Aint exactly the main bearing on a Hemi we talking about here. Edited May 22, 2012 by Rhodes1968 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
semper299 284 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Blah blah blah JB Weld is evil and will get your dog pregnant. Sheesh... Seen seen screws come loose, break, etc etc etc but folks use the crap out of them. Just do a good job with whatever you choose and it will be fine. Aint exactly the main bearing on a Hemi we talking about here. THIS!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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