faststang90 18 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 any one seen the spring loaded stock that makes your semi auto gun full auto? seen one at the gun show today http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/12/robert-farago/ssar-15-fully-legal-full-auto-ar-15-submachine-gun/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 They work very well but they are not spring loaded, if they were they would be illegal. The gun "slides" in the stock, hence, the slidefire stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 what a joke of a website, right off the bat they start with the myth about the atf being able to come into your house whenever they want just because you own nfa weapons 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 what a joke of a website, right off the bat they start with the myth about the atf being able to come into your house whenever they want just because you own nfa weapons Now that you mention it, what are the 'rules' regarding ATF inspection for NFA items? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 There are no special rules for inspecting NFA guns. It's the same as a title 1 weapon. They can't even expect a gun manufacturer or dealer except during business hours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Just curious, why is this thread in the Saiga 20 section? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Just curious, why is this thread in the Saiga 20 section? Cuz that's where the question originated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
faststang90 18 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 its here because i have a 20 gauge and i was thinking of getting 1 for it. they had told me it was a spring in the stock that is y i said spring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 There are no special rules for inspecting NFA guns. It's the same as a title 1 weapon. They can't even INSPECT a gun manufacturer or dealer except during business hours. Oops, typo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 There are no special rules for inspecting NFA guns. It's the same as a title 1 weapon. They can't even INSPECT a gun manufacturer or dealer except during business hours. Oops, typo I expect everyone knew you meant inspect. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Get the bumpski! Got one at this years B-Day Bash and put it on my Tromix SBS after some mods. This is a video my first time trying it out. Sorry crappy iphone video Then on the 5.45x39 saiga Edited June 26, 2012 by madmax4x4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
faststang90 18 Posted October 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 i did a hell fire trigger because the bump stock will not work on a stock saiga. the hell fire worked good just had to remember to keep it pulled Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lithium 0 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) @Faststang 90.... Where did you get that stock?? I want a pistol grip and folding stock but dont want to mod my S-12!! 1 more thing what is a hell fire trigger how does it work and where do you get it?? Edited October 8, 2012 by lithium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 NOT full auto...full retarded. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) so I would you know change the thread title... cuz well that is bad on all of us Edited October 8, 2012 by Syndicate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
faststang90 18 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 i dont have a folding stock, its Adjustable Stock that has a pistol Grip. yes its a hell fire trigger and it worked good. i got it at the gun show for 45.00. sunnybean it easier not to have said any thing than to talk sh t. this is where i got it from stock from http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/saiga-collapsible-intrafuse-t6-stock-pistol-grip-tapco-black-p-339.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 My point is it is NOT full auto. The more people keep calling these things full auto, the worse off we will be. It's your money, spend it how you like. But please, don't say you have a full auto gun. 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Star Arms 2,047 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Sunnybean is right on the money. 'Bump fire' is a manual semi auto rapid fire technique employing recoil, and requiring a single pull of the trigger for every round discharged. It is not automatic fire. Automatic fire relies upon mechanics which cause a firearm to discharge more than one round with a single pull of the trigger. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MightyLordRay 94 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Seems to me that having a bump fire or other type of gizmo on a firearm would be a waste when someone could just pull the trigger really fast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alaskapopo 20 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Bump firining is just a waste of money. Pat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Seems to me that having a bump fire or other type of gizmo on a firearm would be a waste when someone could just pull the trigger really fast. If you have seen anyone bump fire ever, you would realize that even with fanning techniques you cannot conventionally pull a trigger nearly as fast as a controlled bump fire with a mid caliber weapon. Whether or not it is useful is another matter. If your main use for your firearms is to turn money into smoke and noise, it is useful. Some weapons seem to be pretty controllable with some of the contraptions to facilitate controlled bump fire. In some cases they are able to control the firearm nearly as well as a true full auto weapon. Remember, there are a bunch of people out there that say having more than 3 shots in a shotgun is not useful. "Useful" depends on your purpose. ISPCA, etc.? not useful. clays? not useful. Long distance shooting? not useful. Ethical hunting? Nope. Engaging multiple close to mid range targets rapidly? potentially useful. (but not something I would personally rely on) Having fun rapidly hammering multiple targets into the ground? Useful. I'd sure like to play with a bumpfire stock on my s12, and my .22, and it would be a fun thing to try. Maybe that isn't useful, but where's the harm? I would not leave anything like that on the gun by my bed though. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alaskapopo 20 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 No harm just wasteful in my opinion and I used to do it. But ammo is not cheap any more. Full auto has limited usefullness in real life even for soldiers who use it mainly to break ambushes as suppresive fire. You can put a lot more lead on a threat with aimed semi auto fire. A friend of mine competes in the annual class three machine gun shoot and he usually wins with his SBR shooting semi auto. pat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 I have noticed that any of the machine gun 3 gun style matches I have seen, it took them longer per target to put the plates down, and they spent much more time reloading. I should have said "seen videos of"... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
faststang90 18 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 i can pull the trigger fast but this does it a lot faster than i can pull. i think im going to take it off because the barrell gets way hotter than i like it too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) If you’ve got the money and burning desire class 3 type stuff can be a butt load of fun, that’s just fun not practical, useful, or even real competitive. I’ve been to some locals’ full auto shoots and a fair shooter with a good repeating weapon be it a pump of lever action let alone a semi auto can knock bowling pins off a table faster than someone blasting away with a full auto. A lot of bullets flying around will never replace aimed fire but it can be fun. The only thing I’d ever want in any form of full auto would be in a 22 so I could afford to play with it and keep it trained on targets. With most calibers you start out shooting at gophers and end up shooting at Cessnas. Edited October 18, 2012 by 20-Mags 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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