RalphXL 9 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Saiga .223, Tapco T-6 collapsible stock fixed in one position(thanks NYS), Galil hand guard, Tapco trigger group, Saw grip, MSA AR-15 magazine adapter, cheap rubber armored scope by NcStar. Very nice build. How do you like the AR Mag adaptor? Did you have to modify the mag well much? I was thinking of getting an adaptor... I like the adapter quite a bit, actually it is a good way for me to use mags larger than 10 rounds, NYS laws and such as they are allow me to use pre-ban AR mags. There was a lot of grinding to do. If I had been more patent I would have found a gunsmith to do it. If you have a steady hand and plenty of time you can do the grinding yourself. I have had it out to the range once with the adapter. The stock mag still works as it should, one of my AR mags works perfect, some of the others are a little snug. A little massaging and everything should be just fine. RalphXL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paco66 0 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 here is my .223 with the pistol grip and handgaurd that I made out of cherry and paduak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gothchick 0 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) Saiga .223, Tapco T-6 collapsible stock fixed in one position(thanks NYS), Galil hand guard, Tapco trigger group, Saw grip, MSA AR-15 magazine adapter, cheap rubber armored scope by NcStar. Very nice build. How do you like the AR Mag adaptor? Did you have to modify the mag well much? I was thinking of getting an adaptor... I like the adapter quite a bit, actually it is a good way for me to use mags larger than 10 rounds, NYS laws and such as they are allow me to use pre-ban AR mags. There was a lot of grinding to do. If I had been more patent I would have found a gunsmith to do it. If you have a steady hand and plenty of time you can do the grinding yourself. I have had it out to the range once with the adapter. The stock mag still works as it should, one of my AR mags works perfect, some of the others are a little snug. A little massaging and everything should be just fine. RalphXL Very nice indeed. I may have to look into a mag well adaptor. Thanks! here is my .223 with the pistol grip and handgaurd that I made out of cherry and paduak.Wow, very nice work on the forend! May I ask why you didn't just convert the FCG and do a tradidtional pistol grip? Edited April 16, 2009 by gothchick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fett 0 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Gun pr0n! Yummie. lol. Just finished converting my .223/5.56~ Pretty fun stuff. The build list: Converted to Standard AK47 Fire Control Group w/ BHO (SemiAuto Only) Bolt Carrier- All contact surfaces polished Bolt - All contact surfaces polished Reciever Rails - All contact surfaces polished Fire Control Group - All contact surfaces polished Trijicon Tritium Front Sight 4 Port Gas Tube UltiMak Tri Rail Fore End Falcon Rail Guards x3 Surefire M951 Tactical Light Surefire LED Upgrade GG&S Front Sling Adaptor Blackhawk Tactical Sling Tapco/ Tromix G2 Single Hook Fire Control Group Tromix Shepards Crook Dinzag Flat Trunnion Bullet Guide Krebs Rail Over Receiver Eotech 552 Holographic Weapon Sight YHM Eotech Riser Eotech FTS 3X Magnifier CAA Galil Pistol Grip Tapco Pistol Grip Screw and Bushing Tapco T6 Collapsible Stock Tapco T6 Buttpad Cherokee M4 Cheek Riser (6) Mags - East German Steel Weiger 30rnds CAA Mag Coupler Good God Gothchick, that is some serious hardware! What a great gun! I think the only thing missing is some reactive armor. Now, can we talk about your avatar picture......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Still a work in progress. My .223 Saiganov Jr. Have a beverage now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxman333 2 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Saiga .223 Skeletal stock Surefire 20 rnd mag UTG 978 quick detach double rail scope mount Bushnell trophy T-dot My_Saiga.bmp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin_Hammer 8 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Still a work in progress. My .223 Saiganov Jr. Have a beverage now! I like these .223 Dragunov look-alikes. When I find a .223 at a reasonable price I think I'm going to give that a try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Still a work in progress. My .223 Saiganov Jr. Have a beverage now! I like these .223 Dragunov look-alikes. When I find a .223 at a reasonable price I think I'm going to give that a try. Well, I did do the tapco single hook FCG conversion (single hook seems better than double hook). The stock I bought at a fun show (gun show) for $20. It was missing the top trunion bolt but a trip to Menards and a 6MM x 15MM Socket head bolt and I was dialed in. The next stop will be the muzzle brake and handguards. I was first going to do a .308 but the ammo shortage and costs as well as the higher rifle cost made my mind up to do this. (I'll shoot many more marmots and prairie dogs than elk) I'm sure it will handle Zombies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Impartial 2 Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Just got mine today ... HMMMM now what to do what to do with it .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) Just got mine yesterday. Stripped and painted the bottom of the receiver last night, ground the hammer axle tube & put it all together today reusing the factory trigger guard. I also have a galil forearm but no retainer. Edited April 30, 2009 by hobbyshooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Still a work in progress. My .223 Saiganov Jr. Have a beverage now! nice job!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MesaCranker 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 From this: TO THIS!! Sorry about the quality of the second one... took that pic with my CrackBerry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lt_JWS 2 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I finally finished my conversion!!! all i have to say is the damn BHO spring is a PITA!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafan12345 21 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 After a lot of hesitation I went ahead and converted my Saiga .223. Thanks a lot to all the forum members here who helped and especially DamagedWorld and Bounce12. It was much easier than I thought it would be - I literally have no knowledge or skill with tools and converted this thing in under 2 hours. I call her "pinko" TAPCO Warsaw Length Stock TAPCO AK Pistol Grip TAPCO G2 FCG Choate AK handguards AKM Gas Tube Dinzag's bolt on lower HG retainer Receiver underside re-finished with duplicolor 500 engine enamel Simple, reliable, inexpensive. The way it was meant to be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 After a lot of hesitation I went ahead and converted my Saiga .223. Thanks a lot to all the forum members here who helped and especially DamagedWorld and Bounce12. good job man.. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pun1sher 7 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Picked up and fired today. No mods yet, but they are on their way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafan12345 21 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Picked up and fired today. No mods yet, but they are on their way. Hey, sweet violation of federal law you got there buddy! Ever heard of 922r? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
justinmcmillion 77 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nadia Tromix Stock/Folder/Internal Adapter UTG quad rail Saw PG CAA Forward Grip Tromix Tapco G2 Leapers Red/Green dot (waiting on the larue iron dot, might put my sig mini dot on off my 556) Vortex flash hider/adapter AR magwell adapter MSA AR mag with magpul 180 lumen light / holder Dust cover with Peep sight + rail Weighs in at 9.6lbs loaded, a little heavy but very well balanced Shots about a 2" group with the ocassional flyer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pun1sher 7 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Picked up and fired today. No mods yet, but they are on their way. Hey, sweet violation of federal law you got there buddy! Ever heard of 922r? First of all, instead of being an ass, you could be more specific. Second, i said i JUST got the gun, meaning I haven't bought or added the American parts I need. Third, chill out. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafan12345 21 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Picked up and fired today. No mods yet, but they are on their way. Hey, sweet violation of federal law you got there buddy! Ever heard of 922r? First of all, instead of being an ass, you could be more specific. Second, i said i JUST got the gun, meaning I haven't bought or added the American parts I need. Third, chill out. First, I have every right to be an ass because I am a lawful gun owner and frequent this forum and don't want it to turn into some fucking weirdo illegal gun / militia bullshit cause of idiots like you. You didn't add any parts? Hmm? That looks like a fucking 30 round mag hanging out the bottom of that cop magnet to me. YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF 922R. COMPLY. NOW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pun1sher 7 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Picked up and fired today. No mods yet, but they are on their way. Hey, sweet violation of federal law you got there buddy! Ever heard of 922r? First of all, instead of being an ass, you could be more specific. Second, i said i JUST got the gun, meaning I haven't bought or added the American parts I need. Third, chill out. First, I have every right to be an ass because I am a lawful gun owner and frequent this forum and don't want it to turn into some fucking weirdo illegal gun / militia bullshit cause of idiots like you. You didn't add any parts? Hmm? That looks like a fucking 30 round mag hanging out the bottom of that cop magnet to me. YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF 922R. COMPLY. NOW. Thats the way the gun was when I bought it, asshole. Just like I mentioned earlier. No need to call a new gun owner an idiot. And don't type in caps. Its very disrespectful. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin_Hammer 8 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Picked up and fired today. No mods yet, but they are on their way. Hey, sweet violation of federal law you got there buddy! Ever heard of 922r? First of all, instead of being an ass, you could be more specific. Second, i said i JUST got the gun, meaning I haven't bought or added the American parts I need. Third, chill out. First, I have every right to be an ass because I am a lawful gun owner and frequent this forum and don't want it to turn into some fucking weirdo illegal gun / militia bullshit cause of idiots like you. You didn't add any parts? Hmm? That looks like a fucking 30 round mag hanging out the bottom of that cop magnet to me. YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF 922R. COMPLY. NOW. CCCP you've got no right to be an asshole to him. He just fucking got the gun. He put the 30 in for what? Five fucking minutes? Let's see the BATF worry about him putting in an unloaded 30 round magazine and not shooting it. Stop being an asshole, he's going to do the conversion. If you insist on being a child, get the fuck off these forums. I'm sure the admins agree, people like you ruin the experience of owning a Saiga. Edited May 21, 2009 by Paladin_Hammer 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Thats the way the gun was when I bought it, asshole. Just like I mentioned earlier. No need to call a new gun owner an idiot. And don't type in caps. Its very disrespectful. while his attitude is over the top and disrespectful... your ignorance of the law.. and the ignorance the seller exhibited.. is no excuse for violation of the law.. unfortunately your gun IS a BLATANT (and COMMON) violation of federal firearms law.. and your blatant posting of this illegal firearm lessons the over all quality of the forum and further reduces the chances of it being taken as a SERIOUS assembly of LAW ABIDING gun enthusiasts.. your gun in factory form has a low capacity magazine.. going to a high capacity magazine like you have is against the law unless you make other parts adjustments first..i seriously recommend you remove the magazine from your weapon and 1) investigate the additional parts needed to be compliant and purchase them.. OR 2) purchase a factory spec low capacity magazine.. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin_Hammer 8 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Thats the way the gun was when I bought it, asshole. Just like I mentioned earlier. No need to call a new gun owner an idiot. And don't type in caps. Its very disrespectful. while his attitude is over the top and disrespectful... your ignorance of the law.. and the ignorance the seller exhibited.. is no excuse for violation of the law.. unfortunately your gun IS a BLATANT (and COMMON) violation of federal firearms law.. and your blatant posting of this illegal firearm lessons the over all quality of the forum and further reduces the chances of it being taken as a SERIOUS assembly of LAW ABIDING gun enthusiasts.. your gun in factory form has a low capacity magazine.. going to a high capacity magazine like you have is against the law unless you make other parts adjustments first..i seriously recommend you remove the magazine from your weapon and 1) investigate the additional parts needed to be compliant and purchase them.. OR 2) purchase a factory spec low capacity magazine.. He's getting the parts, and he had that magazine in for nearly no time. Seriously guys, the moment the BATF gives a damn about an unloaded 30 round magazine in a rifle, he'll have a case against them before they do him. Attacking a new guy for a quick photo-op isn't going to bring in members to these forums. Hell, it's probably why the user xbox360 on thehighroad.org refuses to post here. Maybe it's why so many Saiga owners in Kansas City prefer to post on the KCgunTrader forums and not here, even if they've got a converted rifle. Stop being assholes on the basis of one freaking photo of a new Saiga. The Pun1sher I'm sorry about the treatment your getting here. We're not all assholes, and I hope you haven't written us off as such. Edited May 21, 2009 by Paladin_Hammer 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Thats the way the gun was when I bought it, asshole. Just like I mentioned earlier. No need to call a new gun owner an idiot. And don't type in caps. Its very disrespectful. while his attitude is over the top and disrespectful... your ignorance of the law.. and the ignorance the seller exhibited.. is no excuse for violation of the law.. unfortunately your gun IS a BLATANT (and COMMON) violation of federal firearms law.. and your blatant posting of this illegal firearm lessons the over all quality of the forum and further reduces the chances of it being taken as a SERIOUS assembly of LAW ABIDING gun enthusiasts.. your gun in factory form has a low capacity magazine.. going to a high capacity magazine like you have is against the law unless you make other parts adjustments first..i seriously recommend you remove the magazine from your weapon and 1) investigate the additional parts needed to be compliant and purchase them.. OR 2) purchase a factory spec low capacity magazine.. He's getting the parts, and he had that magazine in for nearly no time. Seriously guys, the moment the BATF gives a damn about an unloaded 30 round magazine in a rifle, he'll have a case against them before they do him. Attacking a new guy for a quick photo-op isn't going to bring in members to these forums. Hell, it's probably why the user xbox360 on thehighroad.org refuses to post here. Maybe it's why so many Saiga owners in Kansas City prefer to post on the KCgunTrader forums and not here, even if they've got a converted rifle. Stop being asshole on the basis of one freaking photo of a new Saiga. The Pun1sher I'm sorry about the treatment your getting here. We're not all assholes, and I hope you haven't written us off as such. thats the problem with the law.. it only takes a SINGLE MOMENT to break it.. in a time where the government is EXTREMELY anti-gun.. i think we as responsible gun owners should give them the LEAST amount of ammunition to use against us.. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 The problem with the most recent posts is not what has been correctly pointed out about 922r but HOW. Saigafun you indeed have proven yourself an ass, as you claim you have a right to, but that also leads to certain consequences. Your inflammatory response shows no tact, and a disrespect for other forum members, especially a guy with less than a dozen posts. Take an example from Damagedorld, who conveyed the same information in a noninsulting and more neutral tone. This repugnant attitude does nothing towards advancing the growth or perception of this forum. 12345 take a vacation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 While I agree wholehartedly with Tritiums comments and actions above... let me address the rest of what has been posted the past few posts... Regardless of the length of time the magazine is inserted in the firearm, a crime is being comitted. If I cut my shotgun barrel down to 15 inches with the intent of welding on a muzzle device in just a few moments it makes ZERO DIFFERENCE!!! The short barreled shotgun was created, and it is ILLEGAL TO MANUFACTURE a normal length shotgun from a SBS!!! The laws are the laws regardless of how long the crime was comitted for... If I go into a bank and only try to rob it for the length of time it takes someone to take a picture... was I still comitting attempted robbery?!?!?! IF you people CANNOT ACCEPT that we frown upon blatant violations of the laws posted as images, by all means go back to he high road, or KC Guntrader fourms... We do not need you here. Yes, Paladinhammer, I am talking about YOU. If you cannot abide by our forum policies, by all means, feel free to not show up here anymore... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pun1sher 7 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 The problem with the most recent posts is not what has been correctly pointed out about 922r but HOW. Saigafun you indeed have proven yourself an ass, as you claim you have a right to, but that also leads to certain consequences. Your inflammatory response shows no tact, and a disrespect for other forum members, especially a guy with less than a dozen posts. Take an example from Damagedorld, who conveyed the same information in a noninsulting and more neutral tone. This repugnant attitude does nothing towards advancing the growth or perception of this forum. 12345 take a vacation. Thanks man... I mean i simply posted a pic, excited about my fresh-out-the-box gun, hoping to get some congrats and maybe some useful info, and i fuckin get flamed to hell. I'm not gonna completely leave the forums because of that ass, but I sure as hell won't be on here as much. p.s. I have removed the clip THAT CAME WITH THE GUN until I get it in compliance. Yeesh. Ill even remove the old pic if I have to. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Pun1sher... They are truly only looking out for you, and the forum... Believe it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Mark 2,452 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 The problem with the most recent posts is not what has been correctly pointed out about 922r but HOW. Saigafun you indeed have proven yourself an ass, as you claim you have a right to, but that also leads to certain consequences. Your inflammatory response shows no tact, and a disrespect for other forum members, especially a guy with less than a dozen posts. Take an example from DamagedWorld, who conveyed the same information in a noninsulting and more neutral tone. This repugnant attitude does nothing towards advancing the growth or perception of this forum. 12345 take a vacation. Thanks man... I mean i simply posted a pic, excited about my fresh-out-the-box gun, hoping to get some congrats and maybe some useful info, and i fuckin get flamed to hell. I'm not gonna completely leave the forums because of that ass, but I sure as hell won't be on here as much. p.s. I have removed the clip THAT CAME WITH THE GUN until I get it in compliance. Yeesh. Ill even remove the old pic if I have to. There is a wealth of great info here so don't up up the ship. The gentleman here will help with all your questions and steer you in the right direction. Fact is, the internet is wide open and you have to sift out the good from the bad. On this site there is more good than bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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