usptac 0 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I plan on making a multiple position gas regulator for myself, and may or may not see how feasible it is to produce them for public sale . I read about "CS Metall Werkes" 5 position gas regulator, but can't find any product links on their site. Is someone currently making these? The design I have in mind would have more than 5 positions (not sure about the total yet). Is there a market for this? Just curious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I would be interested in seeing some test results of this particular mod and how much good it does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I think it is a really good idea. Look at the FAL design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I would be interested if it worked and was a reasonable price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nycGUNguy 61 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I would also be interested if it could work just like the FAL design or maybe a sort of knob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HEADHUNTER 0 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 +1 here, I'd buy one. You could find that setting that's just right and will cycle any load but is easier on the firearm, that's why I love my FAL. I would also be interested if it could work just like the FAL design or maybe a sort of knob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csmw 98 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 (edited) usptac, The ones I designed were 6 position (2 + 4 extra). Once you go from #2 setting (wide open) to the 90-degree mark, the gas-port is closed. You have 90-degrees to work with. You can only get 4 detents cut, in that amount of space. The reason I went to the trouble of making them was because I wanted a 'turn-knob' on them. I would never go to the trouble of doing them again, too much work just to get the knob, which is rarely used. Lathing them out of steel, milling the detents, milling the knob, then heat-treating.... a lot of work for what it is, imho. If you just want the extra positions, a dremel and steady hand is all that is needed. Just did one for a customer, and just dremel'd it. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need anymore info. I just don't think it is a really feasable endeavor for you. Matt C&S Edited July 18, 2007 by C&S Metall-Werkes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frick74 0 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 C&S, thanks for a great reply. Wouldnt the benefits of this only work if you oversized the hole from the barrel through the gas block, IE, to create more pressure first? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csmw 98 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I got to agree with you. I think any S-12 can benefit from opening up the ports. Every gun I did, I enlarged the ports, whether the gun was 12" or 18". Makes the gun more reliable, and you could back the gas off at the knob, to avoid battering the weapon. When we set up our guns to fire reliably with the 5rd mags and Wally World low-brass, they would have multiple FTF/FTE with the 10rd AGP mags. Clicking to the next gas setting, would fix it immediately...hair more recoil, but nothing violent to the weapon. Adjustable port is cool, but the benefit really comes into play when you open up the ports. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GTwannabe 1 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I would be interested in either: 1. A tool-less adjustable gas regulator 2. A self-regulating gas valve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 i'm interested too price in mind? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Quick question for you guys, the little round piston looking dealy in the gas tube that slides out the front... is that supposed to slide around an inch or so when correctly installed? Mine rattles and slides, I haven't fired the gun yet and won't until I know it's safe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 rattle is a good signit needs to move in there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Quick question for you guys, the little round piston looking dealy in the gas tube that slides out the front... is that supposed to slide around an inch or so when correctly installed? Mine rattles and slides, I haven't fired the gun yet and won't until I know it's safe. The noise it makes sucks but it is a good sign. When you stop hearing it or hear it not sliding as good is when it is time to clean your gas system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Very awesome to hear it, thanks guys. I assume having more gas settings has to be a good thing, especially for guys like me that just buy up whatever ammo I can get for cheap at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
748 0 Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I would like one also. I shoot every thing form Remington 3'' sluggers down to 1oz Ultra light reloads packed into Win AA shells. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I don't know if opening the holes would do it- the stock regulator covers up some of the holes as you turn it. Maybe if you re-drilled the hole pattern in the gas block...where the plug could cover them up gradually...awww just thinking out loud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan 0 Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Id be interested as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 (edited) I am interested Edited July 22, 2007 by topmaul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
325time 1 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I'm interested. This would be a great improvement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drooling idiot 1 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I think their a large pool of guys who would be interested. Of course that pool gets shallower the deeper into there pockets they need to reach. I think it be a great impovement but would need some concept of cost before I'd be able to commit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOU 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I think their a large pool of guys who would be interested. Of course that pool gets shallower the deeper into there pockets they need to reach. I think it be a great impovement but would need some concept of cost before I'd be able to commit. I too would be very interested as I have similar on my Daewoo DR-200 which is by far my favorite 5.56. It's a great concept/application that I wish more rifles had. So are you thinking S-12's only or developing something for rifles as well? What kind of price point? Cheers, TOU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 We're not considering making one, but my guess is you'd have to price it around fifty bucks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Racer 27 37 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 (edited) 2. A self-regulating gas valve This would be better! edit: like on a M-14, AR-15 just load and shoot. Edited July 25, 2007 by Racer 27 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 2. A self-regulating gas valve This would be better! edit: like on a M-14, AR-15 just load and shoot. Rifle loads don't vary nearly as much as shotgun loads. You'll note that Saiga rifles don't need the adjustable regulator either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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