sicktooth 8 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=94230352 WHAT? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 :lol: What a dick! My Tromix blows that thing away! I don't like the finish. Hey! spend $1900.00 and get a free $40 mag!.....how can you lose?! I can' wait to see if some tool buys it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 That's a new low, errr, high. I thought a $900 quote was ridiculous. Not that it isn't but that takes the cake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
748 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 This is why I cant stand gun broker now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 (edited) they will only get more expensive. Edited March 8, 2008 by Bvamp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 actually, they are first rate. dunno if I agree with thier pricing, but they were shot down before this forum could get in contact with them about thier work. it was unfortunate, really, and an accident, is the best way to explain it. Who is? Rising Sun? I would like the white and red paint fill in on mine. No disrespect meant to them,if they are reputable. I just don't think people would respond well to that kind of pricing around here. Have you handled one personally? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 actually, they are first rate. dunno if I agree with thier pricing, but they were shot down before this forum could get in contact with them about thier work. it was unfortunate, really, and an accident, is the best way to explain it. I don't understand. What does that mean? They're selling a $400 gun with no more than $200 worth of parts and about 6 hours of work for $1900. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TacticalResponse 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 $1900 for a Saiga 12? If Barack Obama is nominated in Denver this Summer by the Dems, guns store shelves will all be empty by August or September. If anybody is old enough to remember what it was like in 1994 before Clinton's AWB, this will be a thousand times worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 I started getting into guns around 2002, but as far as I can remember, it wasn't really that bad. Shit, I got a norinco MAK90 sporter back then for $400, now it seems like you've got to drop atleast $450 on a yugo these days. The only thing that really affected me with the 1994 AWB was buying magazine for my pistol, $120 for a factory glock 23 13 round mag was ridiculous. But other than that, it was just symbolic, as far as I could tell. I could be wrong and or naive, I don't know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 (edited) those guys do some nice work. I may have. Im kind of focusing on my own partnerships and such, to answer your questions closer, any more. I found a couple of guys that I can shake hands with and not have to pray at the end of the day, so whatever. You get SOMETHING when you pay that much......instead of bitching why dont you OOGLE and ask WHAT IS IT? IT CANT BE JUST LETTERING JOBS!?!?!!?? bitch all you want. you pay for workmanship. the saiga-12 is skyrocketing in price, too. O WELL. I edited some out, but you all hold me to it, so I will back what I originally said. you people are like little girls sometimes, ya know that? Edited March 8, 2008 by Bvamp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 those guys do some nice work. I may have. Im kind of focusing on my own partnerships and such, to answer your questions closer, any more. I found a couple of guys that I can shake hands with and not have to pray at the end of the day, so whatever. You get SOMETHING when you pay that much......instead of bitching why dont you OOGLE and ask WHAT IS IT? IT CANT BE JUST LETTERING JOBS!?!?!!?? bitch all you want. you pay for workmanship. the saiga-12 is skyrocketing in price, too. O WELL. I edited some out, but you all hold me to it, so I will back what I originally said. you people are like little girls sometimes, ya know that? The MAK90 never failed me, it always shot and functioned great. Hell, I'm shooting through a century underfolder right now, I've got no complaints, but then again, I really don't have that much experience with guns in general, in a grand scheme. I do know that I can hit a 12" plate a 100 yards pretty consistently with my shitty century ak iron sights, so I must me doing something right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 If you are responding to me, I didn't say it was for a lettering job. I said I wish mine had it. Sorry if I offended you man, it just seems like a lot of money. If anything,it makes me feel good about what I have in the safe. To tell you the truth, I thought it was just some guy selling it. You are probably right about the bitching,it doesn't make people want to advertise if we jump everybodys shit all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caspian 32 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 It looks a lot to me like a Tromix knock off. Wonder if they have the warranty and experience Tony does to warrant a price hundreds higher. Tonys gun Rising Sun gun Right down to the slotted handguards. ummmmm....are you drunk? those guys do some nice work. I may have. Im kind of focusing on my own partnerships and such, to answer your questions closer, any more. I found a couple of guys that I can shake hands with and not have to pray at the end of the day, so whatever. You get SOMETHING when you pay that much......instead of bitching why dont you OOGLE and ask WHAT IS IT? IT CANT BE JUST LETTERING JOBS!?!?!!?? bitch all you want. you pay for workmanship. the saiga-12 is skyrocketing in price, too. O WELL. I edited some out, but you all hold me to it, so I will back what I originally said. you people are like little girls sometimes, ya know that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Brownell's has the paint sticks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocinante 100 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 no more than $200 1900 is way excessive but that ace folder setup is about 150. Ace thinks a lot of their folding mechanism and internal block. More than 200 in parts there for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bonesaw 1 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 (edited) has anyone noticed yet that the "Rising sun" gun has its front sight welded on backwards ???? 1.9K for sure Edited March 8, 2008 by Bonesaw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rangerdavid 6 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 HOLY COW!!!! is he serious??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kellysguy 1 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 I started getting into guns around 2002, but as far as I can remember, it wasn't really that bad. Shit, I got a norinco MAK90 sporter back then for $400, now it seems like you've got to drop atleast $450 on a yugo these days. The only thing that really affected me with the 1994 AWB was buying magazine for my pistol, $120 for a factory glock 23 13 round mag was ridiculous. But other than that, it was just symbolic, as far as I could tell. I could be wrong and or naive, I don't know. MAK 90's use to be $160 for MILLED in '93. $450 for a Yugo isn't bad when you compare them to a MAK90 or especially that ROMAK crap. Yugo's will jump soon too. Last show I went to had one for $650 and $750 for fixed stock. Another guy had one for $449 at the same show. Yugo's are at the top of the heap and shoot great. I got in late on Saiga's because of the ROMAK crap scared me and though something "better" might come along in 12ga so I waited. I'm really wish I would have bought an s12 when they were $199 !!!!!!!! I couldn't find hi cap mags then so I balked. It's then same thought process I had for the $60 new SKS's "at that price it MUST be junk". "Oh, they're $300 now!?!?!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Franky 2 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 has anyone noticed yet that the "Rising sun" gun has its front sight welded on backwards ???? 1.9K for sure That's Funny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 if thats what hes got to charge, then thats what he has to charge. I did NOT notice the front sight! NICE. well, it was nice work until I saw that. statement retracted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 to add - the last trip to AZ I made, I checked out one of their customized guns in a local gun shop. I have seen their workmanship first-hand. almost 2 grand is a lot for any gun, and people have to make what they have to make. Others will pay that. either way, putting my foot in my mouth, now. cannot believe that sight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 ROFL Bonesaw, good eyes! I didn't notice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 (edited) has anyone noticed yet that the "Rising sun" gun has its front sight welded on backwards ???? 1.9K for sure LOL, have you see a HK front sight on close, as for what I have seen if you cut the sight to be install on a gas block, and you get the right angle to install it no matters at all if you put it like they did, On a rifle you may need to find the angle to make it in line with the height of the rear sight to give elevation, but on a shotgun how far you think you going to shoot with it, the best is use the HK sight as a ghost sight on the shotgun. I see a lot of people have a lots of opinions but they don't built stuff. They dont know how hard is to fill the holes on the receiver with a Tig welder and not fubar it or just do a new finish on a gun and I dont mean can of crap paint that will come off the first time you clean the gun with hoppes number 9. If a guy want to put that price on his work, well if the price he chooses for what he did and if any one want to buy it well is no ones business but the seller and the buyer, make fun of prices when one can even do a simple conversion is ironic, forget of a full finish gun. Just my opinion from a guy that cant even type right, LOL. Hey B I may get a new jig to port the barrel in 12G soon, just let you know Bro but man is pricey. Damn there goes another small fortune in tooling. Edited March 8, 2008 by vjor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 The real test is being conducted now! If it sells that says his price was not to high, once. If he can sell a lot at that price, well he may figured out something before everyone else. I say his price is way to high and he is delusional about the desirability of his work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 The real test is being conducted now! If it sells that says his price was not to high, once. If he can sell a lot at that price, well he may figured out something before everyone else. I say his price is way to high and he is delusional about the desirability of his work. Yea brother he may delusional abut prices, but I have seen saiga12G with out conversion just the Russian pistol grip folder go for 1200.00 a got sold LOL that is crazy but is always some one out there that want something really bad and don't care to pay for the stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 (edited) Yea brother he may delusional abut prices, but I have seen saiga12G with out conversion just the Russian pistol grip folder go for 1200.00 a got sold LOL.... Well you may be right! If he sells for this, I think I will go post my unconverted S12 with a full conversion kit for say, $1400. If it sells I will then call Tromix about buying one of his pre-converted guns. Edited March 9, 2008 by Azrial Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 (edited) :lol: What a dick! My Tromix blows that thing away! I don't like the finish. Hey! spend $1900.00 and get a free $40 mag!.....how can you lose?! I can' wait to see if some fool buys it I agree this dick's price is way too high. Will some fool buy it or will he lower his price? The free magazine makes it a bargain? I understand that converted Saigas cost more but this is dick went too far. Edited March 9, 2008 by uzitiger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daemon688 0 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 These prices are insane and I can't beleive how much converted saiga's are going for, even the "non ripoffs". But you know what, I don't really care. I'm glad I got on the Saiga boat back in 2004, because these guns weren't selling for crap back then. So it makes me feel pretty darn good that I paid a little over the cost of a WASR for my saiga Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhound 91 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 I think long and hard before I spend more than $1,500 for a long gun. As you all know, when you get into the price range over $1,500.00, there are thousands of really good choices. If I were to spend that much on a Saiga conversion, there are very few people I would buy from, and that select group would not include someone who puts the sight on backwards! If the market will carry what he is asking, more power to him. Remember what P.T. Barnum said. WJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 You guys are right on prices, stuff goes out hand all the time, prices go up and well people pay for it, man times had change a lot, some times I go to gun shows and see Saigas going for 500 and over unconverted. And yes like PT barnum says, and yes is one born every minute. But hey just think that you have the enough knowledge not to pay that much for a gun and that this country is free and if some one pay for that gun what the man is asking well good for him and good for the buyer. Each its own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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