Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Message subject: Your Sig From: Name withheld Sent: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:13 pm To: Juggernaut Message While Norman Thomas had some interesting ideas about labor and Marxism, quoting him is in violation of our No Political Debate rule. 7.) No debating of politics or religion. To help discourage any of the above rules from being broken, we make a point to avoid these types of debates. It makes it a lot easier for us to all get along and helps us stay focused on our root topics--survival and Smurfs. There are lots of other great forums out there dedicated to debating politics and religion if you wish to do so. That quote's only purpose is to advance your political ideals, which inevitably leads to debate. So if you would, please remove it from your sig, or if you'd prefer I can do it for you. "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."- Norman Thomas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Digging into peoples sig lines goes a bit to far IMO...... My Sig line was as follows... "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."- Norman Thomas The place is in the same category as Barfcom IMO now..... They must be members of Obama's all new all volunteer force... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffian72 548 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 You are just to radical Juggs. Must have hit a nerve with a Marxist supporter. Might make a person think, or say "What the hell'" and start checking things out, instead of just drinking the kool-aid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bounce12 407 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I've been kicked out of less oppressive places than THAT before. LOL The thing is, the quote is a matter of fact. It's not even a subject for debate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Banning a quote in a sig line is the internet version of burning books! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 oh god forbid you debate something on the internet my favorite ban was when i got pissed off at a moderator's apparant drunken friend who said CGW didnt exist outright, and started in with me about a year or so ago, to which i responded back in quite a nasty way. I get booted, and they didnt even get a reprimand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafan12345 21 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 the mods on this site are awesome. if you wanna see a REALLY bad climate, check out the gunsandammomag.com forums. wow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baptistjihad 0 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 the mods on this site are awesome. if you wanna see a REALLY bad climate, check out the gunsandammomag.com forums. wow. I was asked to leave Zombiehunters within the first day just for my signature. Wasn't even given a choice to change it. I even bought a shirt.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Fairness doctrine in action. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafan12345 21 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 the mods on this site are awesome. if you wanna see a REALLY bad climate, check out the gunsandammomag.com forums. wow. I was asked to leave Zombiehunters within the first day just for my signature. Wasn't even given a choice to change it. I even bought a shirt.... G&A moderators will outright troll you. i.e. someone reposts an e-mail in the political section that's flat out bull (obama says everyone must wear 1 article of red clothing every day starting next week), you reply and say hey sorry guys but its a fake heres the real link then the mods straight up call you a fool, nancy boy, lib, etc. and upon reply you are banned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 wow Juggs, heaven forbid anyone speaks their mind, even on the internet people are being stifled? ridiculousness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Man, I don't even stop liberals from spewing their crap here... I just flame them with my correct thinking.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffian72 548 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 That's what makes it interesting. We can bitch and moan, get hacked off. Some might not be liked, yet few are banned, and if so were warned, or just at times got out of hand. Tolerance is not allowed by some ounce they get the control. Yes, at times I can be upset with some stuff, yet haven't wanted them banned. Even our trolls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 That's what makes it interesting. We can bitch and moan, get hacked off. Some might not be liked, yet few are banned, and if so were warned, or just at times got out of hand. Tolerance is not allowed by some ounce they get the control. Yes, at times I can be upset with some stuff, yet haven't wanted them banned. Even our trolls. funny how the ones screaming for their rights and how they must be heard are the first to stifle others because someone might get offended....... For the good of the people!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Koliadko 207 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 That's what makes it interesting. We can bitch and moan, get hacked off. Some might not be liked, yet few are banned, and if so were warned, or just at times got out of hand. Tolerance is not allowed by some ounce they get the control. Yes, at times I can be upset with some stuff, yet haven't wanted them banned. Even our trolls. But very few people have been banned. Warnings and suspensions, yes. But they've been allowed back. This is a very tolerant forum, from a moderating perspective at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 That's what makes it interesting. We can bitch and moan, get hacked off. Some might not be liked, yet few are banned, and if so were warned, or just at times got out of hand. Tolerance is not allowed by some ounce they get the control. Yes, at times I can be upset with some stuff, yet haven't wanted them banned. Even our trolls. But very few people have been banned. Warnings and suspensions, yes. But they've been allowed back. This is a very tolerant forum, from a moderating perspective at least. I think that is what he was saying.... The only time I really lost it was when the USMC was compared to nazis... and when Hadjimo had a link to a terrorist site.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffian72 548 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Juggs, you're right. Only thing never figured out about the Corps dress blues. Very distinctive, yet as a heathen/redneck, I noticed the color coordination sucked. Nazi's did have cool dress uniforms. Ever notice the groups who call all desenters Nazi's, are the ones who's ideology closely mimics them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 This is the best I have come across, argue, cuss, insult and threaten and it's all good. This forum sets a good standard for how America should be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Thanks Juggs, for not making this site ar15.com. The trolling there is unbearable. Every thread has a troll. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnp 1 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 The only dumbards here are the weaklings who whine about the words "Happy Negro" or heaven forbid...the N word, or jew-boy. However cracker, honkie, chuck, mr. charles, the man, etc don't seem to bother those girlie-mans; princesses like Surly comes to mind foremost among the whiners who complain to the mods. "We get complaints" I'm told. Nothing offends me personally, its just an INTERNET FORUM, people!! Making The Fight Club a protected forum was an excellent thing to do...so much freedom at last to spew racial and other shit, whether sincere or merely reaction trolling. The only real and sincerely meant jibes there are about Surly's homosexuality( probably!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 The most anal bunch I've seen is the Explosives Forum, where you are BANNED for asking a question that has EVER been answered previously on their forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 their Admin threatened to lock my acct. if I ran off their new mod....Lol!!! If they do not allow politics... why have a firearms section????? Personally, I had nothing to gain from that forum... I do have a few friends there that I have a ton of respect for... I guess I'd rather be here or WT than worrying about upsetting someones raging vaginal wounds just Because I had an opinion.... Edit:The Mod that "slapped my wrist" had some Nazi guy as an avatar no less.... and my historical comment about socialism was offensive.... I had that sig up there for about 5 or six months min.... Now, it's an issue???? Needless to say, I'm done there..... Don't you know who I am????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe Zambeak 53 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I have lurked on that forum for about 2 years. I never signed up because it seems like everyone is walking on eggshells. This only confirms those suspicions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Funny thing, I was truly trying to contribute over there... Got the paid membership, donated on fundraisers, help organize shoots, contributed what knowledge I could... Hell, I didn't even go after nobody with my views or anything of the sort in a thread, discussion or whatever... Simply for having an ironical sig line.... Funny, at least conservatives can take abuse from the left... where as they just want conservatives silenced... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termite 463 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Do you think that they are so fricking afraid that "big brother" is watching what they say and don't want any shit from them. The 1st amendment is already getting trashed, and it'll only get worse. Just be very careful and don't say anything that might offend Curious George. :) I hope to God that asshat stays out of the country for a few more months, we finally got some work at the shop, maybe we can quit living off our savings account, because it ain't gonna last much longer. Don't backdown Juggs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Thats why I like it here at Saiga 12's forum. It is truly free to say what you want. Unlike the Indiana gun owners forum, which is ok, alot of nice folks, BUT the mods/owners are complete control freak assholes. Its a very big very popular forum, but I barley lurk there, and mainly only if im trying to buy something local!! For instance the two vids in my sig is a VERY BIG no no!!! Edited April 3, 2009 by Bean.223 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Thats why I like it here at Saiga 12's forum. It is truly free to say what you want. Unlike the Indiana gun owners forum, which is ok, alot of nice folks, BUT the mods/owners are complete control freak assholes. Its a very big very popular forum, but I barley lurk there, and mainly only if im trying to buy something local!! For instance the two vids in my sig is a VERY BIG no no!!! I'd rather know where I really stand with someone than tiptoe around an issue... If people get to the point that they are too irrational to carry on a productive conversation, leave 'em be.. Folks can agree to disagree... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninja steve 0 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I wish ZS was a bit more like here. I mean I get to see boobies here! Boobies makes everyone happy. No seriously all the no politics stuff is lame. Hell the militia topic I just started here would last probably 30 seconds over there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Koliadko 207 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I know some people don't like politics but gun ownership is political. They go hand in hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I know some people don't like politics but gun ownership is political. They go hand in hand. EXACTLY!!!! if they rouneded up my sig, they should go after every "Molan Labe", Ron Paul Librarian quote over there... Has anyone over there actually seen a Zombie movie??? most are actually POLITICAL COMMENTARY!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WardenWolf 6 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Some mods aren't Nazis, they're Modzis. A signature is for self-expression. Some places disallow advertising, and that's well and good, but disallowing a quote because it's "political views" is just extreme and stupid. I used to be considered "the Nazi mod" on another forum (ironically another IPS board; I know how these boards work inside and out). They didn't like that I was heavy with the rules, even when the offense called for it, and that I found IP traces fun because of all the stuff you can find (particularly dual accounts). How I dealt with necroposters was this: first I'd PM them, explaining why it was bad, and asking them to stop. If I actually had to give a warning to stop it, it came with 48 hours of mod preview. Edited April 3, 2009 by Mike the Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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