baraban7.62 20 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thank god i sold my AR-15 last night, from now on I'm doing only Russian weapons. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 That's to funny, I ordered my upper and scope to complete my AR last night. Not to worry though, my IZ-132 is on order as well. Really liking the Saiga's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thank god i sold my AR-15 last night, from now on I'm doing only Russian weapons. Good job, i made the switch years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I have a Colt AR-15 I have never shot. Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snooter 6 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thank god i sold my AR-15 last night, from now on I'm doing only Russian weapons. Good job, i made the switch years ago. im surprised some still admit that mistake..back in 1986 it was the green label 15's of which at least a dozen were in the shop or that little darling kengs poly for $189...got me 3 of those little darlings at $189 each back then..they are still hugged and fondled to this day... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I like the history and ruggedness of russian weapons. Ive also made the decision that 1. All my handgun calibers start with 4 and ends with 5 2. All my rifle calibers start with 7.62 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tusken Raider 6 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Made the switch years ago as well. But I still have a bunch of AR mags and .223 ammo sitting here. Even though I will probably never go back to an AR platform. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kliegl 304 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I like a little bit of everything. An AR platform is good for the 5.56x45 round, and that has its place. It certainly is more accurate than my SKS is, though that is probably the fault of that rifle, not the 7.62x39 round. To me, you only get to real rifles once you get up to the 7.62x63. The 7.62x51 is a good round, but the 7.62x39 is too much bullet pushed by too little powder, in my opinion. Neither it nor the 5.56x45 are particularly awesome; there's a reason the M14 rules the sandbox over there. Sure, I'll have some rifles that shoot all that. I think the AR platform, with lightweight ammo, collapsible stocks, and accessories out the ass is an IDEAL youth and woman's gun. I think the AK platform is wonderful for cheap shooting and rugged guns. But, I won't deer hunt with either. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
self_inflicted 70 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Funny, I love my AR... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baraban7.62 20 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 i got a PM (makarov), Saiga 7.62, soon will get a Tigr, and a Saiga 12, i sold my kimber and AR, and I'm so happy with the decision now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
308SAIGA 55 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 What was wrong with the AR? I have a Stag lower and got a RRA 5.56 20" Wylde barrel in a 1X8 and could not be happier... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baraban7.62 20 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 What was wrong with the AR? I have a Stag lower and got a RRA 5.56 20" Wylde barrel in a 1X8 and could not be happier... I have had the AR for a year or so, and ever since i bought a saiga 7.62 and my friend bought an SGL21 i wanted to compare the AR vs AK, and to me there is no comparison, night and day. And i finally got rid of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I love my AR to. More reliable than my old Saiga .223. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I like a little bit of everything. An AR platform is good for the 5.56x45 round, and that has its place. It certainly is more accurate than my SKS is, though that is probably the fault of that rifle, not the 7.62x39 round. To me, you only get to real rifles once you get up to the 7.62x63. The 7.62x51 is a good round, but the 7.62x39 is too much bullet pushed by too little powder, in my opinion. Neither it nor the 5.56x45 are particularly awesome; there's a reason the M14 rules the sandbox over there. Sure, I'll have some rifles that shoot all that. I think the AR platform, with lightweight ammo, collapsible stocks, and accessories out the ass is an IDEAL youth and woman's gun. I think the AK platform is wonderful for cheap shooting and rugged guns. But, I won't deer hunt with either. Thats why I like the .45, big heavy round. The 7.62x39mm is a very good CQC round up to 200 yards. I dont even need to say anything about the 51mm do I? Its my fav. I also think the FN SCAR heavy (762x51mm) will be phasing out the M14 along with the armalite sass, especially when the DMR version hits the sandbox, if it has not already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeep297 20 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Not sure why you can't enjoy both, I have plenty of each of love all of them. They are each unique and have their own strengths/weaknesses. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Had an AR. Sold to fund my sbr 7.62 AKSU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baraban7.62 20 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Not sure why you can't enjoy both, I have plenty of each of love all of them. They are each unique and have their own strengths/weaknesses. Yes, of course, i loved my M16 in the military, and i loved my AR-15 as a civilian, but i think its time to move on to the Rock solid AK now 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Not sure why you can't enjoy both, I have plenty of each of love all of them. They are each unique and have their own strengths/weaknesses. My thoughts exactly. I've said here many times; I love both platforms, and won't be soon giving up either, to consolidate to the other. To each his own. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) No reason to sell your AR I have 3 spikes tactical AR-15 rifles, 1 spikes tactical AR-pistol, a M&P 15, 2 SAR-2's, a bulg. AK-74 side folder,a S-20 and 3 S-12's(one is still on lay-a-way) It is nice to have a choice of weapons cause when the SHTF you never know what spare ammo you are going to find it would be hell to only have a 7.62x39 rifle and only find 5.56x45 ammo JMO. Edited February 13, 2011 by SCHULTZE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOPMOD 254 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Maybe it's about time for this thing to go too I used to own 5 different AR15 variants and this RRA/CMMG/FN/KAC USMC M16A4 clone is the last of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Hey, how about a little love for the AK-74? No recoil, accurate, and the 5.45x39 round does things ballistics wise the .223 doesn't.... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I love the 74s I have 3 right now and 2 RPK-74 receivers trying to find part kits for them and the next project will be a krinkov. The 5.45x39 round kicks ass steel cored and what it does to a soft target is incrediable. It is a under rated round that deserives more attention but if that happen then the price goes up so lets keep it on the down low. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLT 1,646 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I love all my rifles. My two ar's work very well, as do my ak variants. I agree that it's a good idea to have both common calibers 223 and 7.62x39. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SovietGinger 16 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 I have been considering selling/trading mine for a .223 converted saiga so that I can use all of the ammo I have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
7N6Wolf 61 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 I am going to build an AR-15, but I have changed my mind and decided to convert my Saiga 5.45 first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrGonZo 157 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Nothing wrong with ARs. I just wont buy one until "they" make an affordable one with a gas piston. You still cant beat Saigas IMHO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 I love AR's. My DPMS bull 20 is dead nuts accurate,but I also love all AK variants. On SOG the other night Will dumps one in the sand ,and then in the mud. Shot like a dream. I watched a test on a Socom 16 where the guy crawled through the mud like the ad ,and he got one maybe two shots off and it was done. We all no what happens when AR's get dirty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOPMOD 254 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Nothing wrong with ARs. I just wont buy one until "they" make an affordable one with a gas piston. You still cant beat Saigas IMHO. Piston ARs have carrier tilt and the only benefit you get from the piston is with short gas systems not cooking your extractor. A midlength DI gun mitigates that issue by 80% and a rifle length mitigates it's entirely without tilting your carrier and gouging your upper until the BC won't enter the receiver extension. The only piston AR that does not do this(and subsequently the only one I would own) would be the HK and only if someone gave it to me for free Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) IF I had to go .223 it would be between a FN Scar 16 and a FN Scar 16. I wish they made one in 7.62x39mm that took AK mags. :super: :super: Edited February 14, 2011 by GREYLUPO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) I think the AR platform, with lightweight ammo, collapsible stocks, and accessories out the ass is an IDEAL youth and woman's gun. Except that it is not as reliable as an AK. That ruins it for serious purposes IMHO. (Probably someone will chime in about how their AR has never malfunctioned, but I see it at the range all the time with other shooters). Edited February 18, 2011 by Jim Digriz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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