Shot spreader

[1-7 leathal tourist 0]

Given the huge popularity of duck bill spreaders why not make one?

I am not a metal worker so I guess if there is a technical issue I would like to know it.

Edited June 6, 2011 by 1-7 leathal tourist

[P lang 51]

Given the huge popularity of duck bill spreaders why not make one?

I am not a metal worker so I guess if there is a technical issue I would like to know it.

 

OK ill bite , whats a duck bill spreader , would you find it on the shelf next to the re-bar strecher or the sky hook , or is it over by the 10 penny toe nails ?

[AJ Dual 43]

Given the huge popularity of duck bill spreaders why not make one?

I am not a metal worker so I guess if there is a technical issue I would like to know it.

 

OK ill bite , whats a duck bill spreader , would you find it on the shelf next to the re-bar strecher or the sky hook , or is it over by the 10 penny toe nails ?

 

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=528645

[poolingmyignorance 2,191]

while he's at it, have him grab me a 5gallon bucket of argon.

 

Given the huge popularity of duck bill spreaders why not make one?

I am not a metal worker so I guess if there is a technical issue I would like to know it.

 

OK ill bite , whats a duck bill spreader , would you find it on the shelf next to the re-bar strecher or the sky hook , or is it over by the 10 penny toe nails ?

[P lang 51]

Given the huge popularity of duck bill spreaders why not make one?

I am not a metal worker so I guess if there is a technical issue I would like to know it.

 

OK ill bite , whats a duck bill spreader , would you find it on the shelf next to the re-bar strecher or the sky hook , or is it over by the 10 penny toe nails ?

 

http://www.ar15.com/...&f=123&t=528645

 

thats actually kinda cool , it would probly work really for shooting skeet

[jw_shultz 83]

Back before some piece of shit stole my SPAS-12 I was told my numerous people that there was a "shot spreader" available for it that screwed on to the threaded barrel. Looks like that is what 1-7 is referring to.

 

Very cool idea, but someone would have to make one to fit the S12.

 

I would buy one.

[L5K 162]

That gives me ideas about my Ithaca 37...

[poolingmyignorance 2,191]

Humble pie never tasted so good.

[Peckaldee 12]

Not too hard to machine one of those. Wish I still worked in the machineshop and had a lathe/mill to use. Looks like a good reason to pay the local community college for time in their shop. Thanks for the link with pics.

[BobAsh 582]

"Huge Popularity"?

 

Every few years somebody mentions this. I've designed a couple but it would be a risky investment IMO.

[jrance@iacwds.com 716]

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/19212-duckbill-choke/

 

I know it wss discussed in 2007 and 2005,

1911

[AtlSaiga 25]

I think they aren't very popular because nobody really knows about them - I know I didn't. If one of the larger companies were to make and advertise one I'm sure it would sell. There doesn't seem to be as much machining involved so it shouldn't cost THAT much to fab up.

 

thinking about it further, if you have 9 pellet buck, how would this help you? at distance you might be lucky to get 1 or pellets on target. as far as aiding in shooting running targets....well for the home defense crowd, you probably shouldn't be shooting at a running (read:fleeing) target. For shits and giggles, this would make sense, but I'd have to guess that as far as real world tactical advantage, maybe not.

 

I know some people care and others don't, but I would think the lawyers would have a field day with you if you killed somebody with a "AK47 shotgun modified to spray and kill people like in the Vietnam war." I can imagine it now...the jury will hate you.

Edited June 6, 2011 by AtlSaiga

[AJ Dual 43]

Shot spreaders have two uses as I see them.

 

1. Riots. You have a mass of people on the ground, and you're not so concerned with killing them, as you are with stopping their advance and turning them around. A horizontal spread of shot will injure/disable/hurt multiple people better than a circular shot pattern will.

 

2. Jungle ambush. You have a general area of where the ambush is coming from, but you may not have an exact location. You want a wider horizontal spread into the brush to get the enemy's head down, and disrupt his fire so your group can return fire, or skedaddle.

[Cobra 76 two 2,677]

http://forum.saiga-1...duckbill-choke/

 

I know it wss discussed in 2007 and 2005,

1911

 

And in an identical thread just yesterday??

[BpS12 512]

AJ has it right. They're best used against multiple attackers/birds and/or bunnies(oh them EVIL bunnies) or in an area of dense vegetation when you don't know exactly where the fire is coming from. Oh and trap shooting too, lol. And lets not forget "hostile only" building/room clearing. You know, for them evil bunnies.

 

What I would like is one similar to a Polychoke that goes from open bore to spreader with a quick turn.

[TonyRumore 1,332]

It seems like you would hit the bad guy with more pellets if you turned that thing vertical......and be less likely to inadvertantly hit the wrong target.

 

The duck bill style is more of a diverter than a spreader. The spreader style leaves the pattern round and just opens it up faster. The diverter changes the shape of the pattern. Or at least that is the idea anyway.

 

If I were to guess, I would bet that both styles just fuck up the pattern so you have large holes in some areas of the pattern and clumps of shot in others.

 

Tony

[physicsnerd 139]

It seems like you would hit the bad guy with more pellets if you turned that thing vertical......and be less likely to inadvertantly hit the wrong target.

 

The duck bill style is more of a diverter than a spreader. The spreader style leaves the pattern round and just opens it up faster. The diverter changes the shape of the pattern. Or at least that is the idea anyway.

 

If I were to guess, I would bet that both styles just fuck up the pattern so you have large holes in some areas of the pattern and clumps of shot in others. [emphasis added]

 

Tony

 

True, given the low statistics from 00 buck containing so few pellets.

[patriot 7,197]

Handloading can dial in the spread of shot to pretty much whatever you want.

[MT Predator 2,294]

My Dad's buddy was a Mortarman in Vietnam and was issued a shotty like this in case they had to ditch the tube and blast their way out of the jungle. As far as any other use, I want all my pellets hitting the target, not two or three. Just curious, anyone know if this limits the shotgun to shot only or will it still throw a slug effectively?

[theorangeplanet 968]

I'd probably buy one only if just for the novelty of it.

[BobAsh 582]

Just curious, anyone know if this limits the shotgun to shot only or will it still throw a slug effectively?

 

It would pretty much have to have a pinch to be very effective, but it would be designed as a removable device.

[ktcm7271 999]

I've got an m22x.75 tap and I'm starting a small run of muzzle breaks soon. I may make a couple of these and try them out for a hoot.

[schultze13 354]

http://forum.saiga-1...duckbill-choke/

 

I know it wss discussed in 2007 and 2005,

1911

 

And in an identical thread just yesterday??

 

I know I posted links to the SPAS spreader on a S-12 and everything else on the other thread yesterday. O'well I will do it again.

Edited June 7, 2011 by SCHULTZE

[ewoketeer 35]

http://forum.saiga-1...duckbill-choke/

 

I know it wss discussed in 2007 and 2005,

1911

 

And in an identical thread just yesterday??

 

I know I posted links to the SPAS spreader on a S-12 and everything else on the other thread yesterday. O'well I will do it again.

 

I've seen one similar to this for a Rem 1100 minus the vent/brake ports. I was told it was a VERY BAD IDEA to shoot slugs thru it

[tialloydragon 1]

I would like to see how this performs on a patterning board before I would invest anything in it.

 

If you want a shot spreader, buy a Diffusion Choke. It's rifled, so it spins the wad and shot before it leaves the barrel with a very large circular pattern.

 

 

[Deadeye 325]

just smash your flash hider with a hammer lol!!!