1-7 leathal tourist 0 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) Given the huge popularity of duck bill spreaders why not make one? I am not a metal worker so I guess if there is a technical issue I would like to know it. Edited June 6, 2011 by 1-7 leathal tourist Quote Link to post Share on other sites
P lang 51 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Given the huge popularity of duck bill spreaders why not make one? I am not a metal worker so I guess if there is a technical issue I would like to know it. OK ill bite , whats a duck bill spreader , would you find it on the shelf next to the re-bar strecher or the sky hook , or is it over by the 10 penny toe nails ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Dual 43 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Given the huge popularity of duck bill spreaders why not make one? I am not a metal worker so I guess if there is a technical issue I would like to know it. OK ill bite , whats a duck bill spreader , would you find it on the shelf next to the re-bar strecher or the sky hook , or is it over by the 10 penny toe nails ? http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=528645 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 while he's at it, have him grab me a 5gallon bucket of argon. Given the huge popularity of duck bill spreaders why not make one? I am not a metal worker so I guess if there is a technical issue I would like to know it. OK ill bite , whats a duck bill spreader , would you find it on the shelf next to the re-bar strecher or the sky hook , or is it over by the 10 penny toe nails ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
P lang 51 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Given the huge popularity of duck bill spreaders why not make one? I am not a metal worker so I guess if there is a technical issue I would like to know it. OK ill bite , whats a duck bill spreader , would you find it on the shelf next to the re-bar strecher or the sky hook , or is it over by the 10 penny toe nails ? http://www.ar15.com/...&f=123&t=528645 thats actually kinda cool , it would probly work really for shooting skeet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jw_shultz 83 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Back before some piece of shit stole my SPAS-12 I was told my numerous people that there was a "shot spreader" available for it that screwed on to the threaded barrel. Looks like that is what 1-7 is referring to. Very cool idea, but someone would have to make one to fit the S12. I would buy one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L5K 162 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 That gives me ideas about my Ithaca 37... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Humble pie never tasted so good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peckaldee 12 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Not too hard to machine one of those. Wish I still worked in the machineshop and had a lathe/mill to use. Looks like a good reason to pay the local community college for time in their shop. Thanks for the link with pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 "Huge Popularity"? Every few years somebody mentions this. I've designed a couple but it would be a risky investment IMO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/19212-duckbill-choke/ I know it wss discussed in 2007 and 2005, 1911 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AtlSaiga 25 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) I think they aren't very popular because nobody really knows about them - I know I didn't. If one of the larger companies were to make and advertise one I'm sure it would sell. There doesn't seem to be as much machining involved so it shouldn't cost THAT much to fab up. thinking about it further, if you have 9 pellet buck, how would this help you? at distance you might be lucky to get 1 or pellets on target. as far as aiding in shooting running targets....well for the home defense crowd, you probably shouldn't be shooting at a running (read:fleeing) target. For shits and giggles, this would make sense, but I'd have to guess that as far as real world tactical advantage, maybe not. I know some people care and others don't, but I would think the lawyers would have a field day with you if you killed somebody with a "AK47 shotgun modified to spray and kill people like in the Vietnam war." I can imagine it now...the jury will hate you. Edited June 6, 2011 by AtlSaiga Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Dual 43 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Shot spreaders have two uses as I see them. 1. Riots. You have a mass of people on the ground, and you're not so concerned with killing them, as you are with stopping their advance and turning them around. A horizontal spread of shot will injure/disable/hurt multiple people better than a circular shot pattern will. 2. Jungle ambush. You have a general area of where the ambush is coming from, but you may not have an exact location. You want a wider horizontal spread into the brush to get the enemy's head down, and disrupt his fire so your group can return fire, or skedaddle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 http://forum.saiga-1...duckbill-choke/ I know it wss discussed in 2007 and 2005, 1911 And in an identical thread just yesterday?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BpS12 512 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 AJ has it right. They're best used against multiple attackers/birds and/or bunnies(oh them EVIL bunnies) or in an area of dense vegetation when you don't know exactly where the fire is coming from. Oh and trap shooting too, lol. And lets not forget "hostile only" building/room clearing. You know, for them evil bunnies. What I would like is one similar to a Polychoke that goes from open bore to spreader with a quick turn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 It seems like you would hit the bad guy with more pellets if you turned that thing vertical......and be less likely to inadvertantly hit the wrong target. The duck bill style is more of a diverter than a spreader. The spreader style leaves the pattern round and just opens it up faster. The diverter changes the shape of the pattern. Or at least that is the idea anyway. If I were to guess, I would bet that both styles just fuck up the pattern so you have large holes in some areas of the pattern and clumps of shot in others. Tony 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
physicsnerd 139 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 It seems like you would hit the bad guy with more pellets if you turned that thing vertical......and be less likely to inadvertantly hit the wrong target. The duck bill style is more of a diverter than a spreader. The spreader style leaves the pattern round and just opens it up faster. The diverter changes the shape of the pattern. Or at least that is the idea anyway. If I were to guess, I would bet that both styles just fuck up the pattern so you have large holes in some areas of the pattern and clumps of shot in others. [emphasis added] Tony True, given the low statistics from 00 buck containing so few pellets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Handloading can dial in the spread of shot to pretty much whatever you want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 My Dad's buddy was a Mortarman in Vietnam and was issued a shotty like this in case they had to ditch the tube and blast their way out of the jungle. As far as any other use, I want all my pellets hitting the target, not two or three. Just curious, anyone know if this limits the shotgun to shot only or will it still throw a slug effectively? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theorangeplanet 968 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'd probably buy one only if just for the novelty of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Just curious, anyone know if this limits the shotgun to shot only or will it still throw a slug effectively? It would pretty much have to have a pinch to be very effective, but it would be designed as a removable device. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ktcm7271 999 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I've got an m22x.75 tap and I'm starting a small run of muzzle breaks soon. I may make a couple of these and try them out for a hoot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) http://forum.saiga-1...duckbill-choke/ I know it wss discussed in 2007 and 2005, 1911 And in an identical thread just yesterday?? I know I posted links to the SPAS spreader on a S-12 and everything else on the other thread yesterday. O'well I will do it again. Edited June 7, 2011 by SCHULTZE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewoketeer 35 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 http://forum.saiga-1...duckbill-choke/ I know it wss discussed in 2007 and 2005, 1911 And in an identical thread just yesterday?? I know I posted links to the SPAS spreader on a S-12 and everything else on the other thread yesterday. O'well I will do it again. I've seen one similar to this for a Rem 1100 minus the vent/brake ports. I was told it was a VERY BAD IDEA to shoot slugs thru it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tialloydragon 1 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I would like to see how this performs on a patterning board before I would invest anything in it. If you want a shot spreader, buy a Diffusion Choke. It's rifled, so it spins the wad and shot before it leaves the barrel with a very large circular pattern. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 just smash your flash hider with a hammer lol!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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