CBR Shadow 53 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 This was mentioned in another thread, so I figured to continue the conversation I'd start a thread on its own as to not hijack the other thread. What's a good .22lr with high capacity and good reliability? Someone mentioned Calico Arms .22LR rilfe/pistol with 100 rd magazine.. are these reliable? Anyone have experience with these? What other .22lr rifile/handguns have high capacity and are generally reliable? Looking for a good Zombie gun 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I use a CMMG kit in my AR with a 50 round drum and 26 round stick mags. Did not see the need to spend another 6 or 7 hundred on another rifle. Also have a Marlin 60 which is not high cap, but has real great accuracy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Parf 19 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Come on...the Ruger 10/22. Everyone needs a 10/22. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peckaldee 12 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I just bought a GSG522sd. Have not shot it yet. 22 round factory mag, 110 round drum available. Like the saiga 12, it needs some attention before its reliable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I concur with Dad2142Dad. If you are looking for a Zombie/Survival gun, then the AR conversion is the way to go if you already have an AR. With 2nd Gen Black Dog Mags, and a Ciener style conversion kit like the CMMG, you have two calibers in one small package about the size of a standard AR Bolt Carrier group and weighing less than a pound. The AR uppers/conversions are cheap and fun to shoot and also have a capability of a 50 round drum (Black Dog). CMMG also make dedicated uppers as did Spikes and Tactical Solutions with the proper barrel twist (1 in 16) for 30-40 grain bullets, but the accuracy out of a 1 in 9 barrel is fine out to 50 yards to take small game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YARP 300 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I use a CMMG kit in my AR with a 50 round drum and 26 round stick mags. Did not see the need to spend another 6 or 7 hundred on another rifle. Also have a Marlin 60 which is not high cap, but has real great accuracy. I second this. I don't have a drum for it but 26rds isn't to shabby. I think they make a 100rd drum for it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I want them to import the Saiga .22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I bought the boy a S&W MP22 and it's a great little gun. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KC913 324 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 10/22. Never had a problem with mine. Cheap and easy upgrades available, but great right out of the box. Quality 25 round mags are readily available for ~$20.00 and up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 If I can get past it being a Kel-Tec, the The PMR-30 holds 30 rounds of .22 magnum rounds which is very interesting in a handgun to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I second the 10/22 although I have a GSG5 that hasn't hiccuped yet. .22 lr Zombie gun? Maybe a Survival gun for taking small game. Two legged biped creatures are not going to see the business end of any of my .22s apart from 5.56 NATO maybe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I think a 10/22 is a great starter platform. However, my personal experience with the standard profile Ruger barrels (owning one and shooting two of my father's) is that they don't group very well out of the box if you want an accurate shooter (3-4 inches at 50 yards with various match grade ammo). I got the same or better accuracy out of a 1 in 9 twist AR with CMMG conversion with Federal bulk. I put an Adams and Bennett bull barrel, new stock, new trigger and now it shoots extremely well with Wolf Match ammo (barely ragged one hole groups at 50 yards). So while I love my 10/22, I think they leave a lot to be desired in the factory condition. Black Dog does make drums for both platforms (10/22 and AR Conversion) in 50 round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) wahoo, i started this inkling in cbrs mind! so, let me force my opinions on yall.... 1-rugers are cool, but have no LRBHO, and that torques me off. here is a build i am doing out of a nodak spud receiver. 2- ar conversion are neat, but for the price, you could have a tube fed marlin. then your 556 gun is outta the fight 3- the pmr is bad arse, but the rounds are expensive. and its fugly. RUMOR has it they are working on a 22lr conversion (? not sure if it was a whole gun or a drop in dealio) 4- as far as hi cap from factory goes, that sorta looks like a pistol. here is a 15 rd magnum reasearch firearm that just popped up locally. if you are interested, i would message him for you http://www.okshooter...%28Very-Rare%29 5 i have a p22, and am gonna work on making the ciener fugly narrow old mags run through the magwell, that way you can get 25 or whater outta the lil bugger. 6 my buddy had a crappy calico, not sure if he still has it. will find out if you are interested. rifle version, folding stock. once again, intersting concept, but fugly. 7 the bizon 9mm helical ak gun would be BA if they made it in 22lr. its cool caues the helical mag is BELOW the barrel thats my thoughts. i like 22s, and think aboot them a little bit...ya? Edited November 8, 2011 by saltydecimator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) A company called CST makes a LRBHO for the 10/22. It requires slightly modded mags though. I've got a Ruger Charger pistol with a couple different sized barrels, and a 10/22, as well as a Ruger 77/22 bolt action: The longer Charger barrel is threaded for a suppressor: [media=''] [/media] Edited November 8, 2011 by Corbin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdmakersmark 15 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 My vote goes to the 10/22. I just like the aftermarket support. My only complaint that the rifle out of the box needs a few things in my opinion to make it function well. You can easily spend a lot of money modding the gun. If I didn't have a few 10/22's I would strongly consider the S&W MP22. I really like this gun and think it would make a great suppressed rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I've read using a direct impingement AR upper with a .22 LR conversion can cause buildup/fouling of the gas system when shooting a ton of bulk ammo. Not something I want to do with any of my uppers. A dedicated upper like a Spike's or S&W seems like a better solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 as far as the build up goes, you just run llike 10 rds of full power ammo through it, no proooooooblem. i like those chargers corbin, especially that short one! if you could get the fit n finish on the short one, that would be the carps tits!!! and its ideal to run suppresed, as anything shorter than aboot 4.5'' will keep bulk pack22 ammo subsonic.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Roger on the buildup. Does that work as far as lead buildup? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I bought the boy a S&W MP22 and it's a great little gun. I have one of these, pistol version, I like it.50 rd drum is fun. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 here's one hell'a hi-cap 22 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theturtlepond 31 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I like the Remington 597. It has 30 round mags and a LRBHO. Its also pretty accurate and a really fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Seriously, EVERYONE needs an AR-7. Stoner's better design. Amazingly accurate (at least My Charter Arms) and does things the others can't. The whole thing comes apart and stows in the buttstock - water tight. Even floats. Fits a backpack or canoe. When it is disassembled it is not a firearm..."..assemblage". It is NOT "assembled". You wouldn't stash a.22 rifle under wet leaves, but with an AR-7 you COULD.Even has a scope rail. THEN you need a fun plinker! I still miss my Marlin 60. Wore the ejector block out and new ones are not available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwiztidKlownzTX 76 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Another vote for a 10/22 Everyone should own one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 here's one hell'a hi-cap 22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h0s_62jXuk&feature=related Thanks for sharing that! Anyone know who makes that upper? My buddy has a NFA M16A1 and would love to have that upper. That upper mated to a Stubborn Mule Outdoor Supply Rogue 50 lower with of course, a selcect fire FCG would make a really neat weapon. Like a mini SAW! Another friend of mine built his BOHICA .50 BMG on one of these and they are nice if you don't need the magwell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) here's one hell'a hi-cap 22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h0s_62jXuk&feature=related Thanks for sharing that! Anyone know who makes that upper? My buddy has a NFA M16A1 and would love to have that upper. That upper mated to a Stubborn Mule Outdoor Supply Rogue 50 lower with of course, a selcect fire FCG would make a really neat weapon. Like a mini SAW! Another friend of mine built his BOHICA .50 BMG on one of these and they are nice if you don't need the magwell. Thats a Razorback belt fed upper. That thing looks like too much fun. Edited November 9, 2011 by superhawk138 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Thanks, I'll pass that on. Jesus that guy's Trijicon is sitting high on that thing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) Does anyone remimber the carnival game where you have to shoot a red star until it is completely gone? That video took me back.(I'm not very old) edit: it was called 'machine gun alley' Edited November 9, 2011 by King of the Hill 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Roger on the buildup. Does that work as far as lead buildup? in the barrel? not sure, i assume the jacket and bigger dia of the 556 round would help to blow it out, or maybe worse, make it stick harder. good question. the best route to go in my opinion in that regards is to get a dedicated cmmg 1/16 22lr barrel. make a whole extra 22 upper. that way, fouling isnt an issue.... that razor thing is BA!!! its basically just a mini 1919! they may make a semi auto version, but i think they run about 1600 to 1800 bucks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armalite_ar50 86 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) I went with a dedicated DPMS 1/16 twist not because I was afraid of fouling. But because I am afraid of a baffle strike since the drop in kits have the "leap" from the kit to the rifling and the 1/7 1/9 or anything else is not suffient to stabilize the .22lr round. Shooting suppressed you NEED the 1/16 barrel twist. Shooting unsupressed it doesn't matter like the one poster said out to 50 yards it's good.but you might see some keyholing. @ 100 you will see keyholing DPMS 556 lower DPMS dedicated 1/16 22 lr twist 6 prototype 30 rnd aluminum mags (I did some beta testing for BDM and got to buy the mags that worked) 1 32 round polycarb mold injected prototype mag. 2 10 round mags leapers 3x9 illuminated MIL DOT FA rated SWR SPECTRE supressor. It's alot of fun to shoot I have it dead nuts dialed out @ 100 yrds. with CCI subs. all you here is bolt slap and the target whack. @ 100 yrds it's a 16 inch drop, hench the reason I went with MIL DOTS. .22 rimfire is a lot of fun to shoot it's just ashame the 550 @ 6.95 box days are long gone. but even @ 20 bux a 550 or 36 bux for 500 subs it's still cheap enough to just blast away. I have a dozen of them from pistols to rifles all are a hoot to shoot! Edited November 10, 2011 by armalite_ar50 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colon Terminus 61 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I have a GSG-5 with the 110 round drum. A little tweaking, a dozen replacement screws and some blue locktite and it's utterly reliable. A full mag dump of 110 rounds will put a smile on anyone's face ... as well as make your trigger finger tired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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