Red Star 38 Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Hey all! Am coming up on getting and converting a 5.45 saiga soon and am doing some homework... anyone use JB weld to secure their bullet guide? thanks again! I say this as I have found a kind of JB weld called 'Industro-weld' the properties are here: Properties (psi) Tensile Strength:3960 Adhesion:1800 Flex Strength:7320 Tensile Lap Shear:1040 Shrinkage:0.0% Resistant to:500° F I would think these limits are well within what occurs inside an AK receiver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
echoside190 127 Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 I'm not saying it wouldn't work but I'd keep away from holding any key component in feeding rounds to the rifle being held only by an epoxy. It'd be best to drill and tap it and hold it in with a screw secured with red loctite, if the bullet guide comes loose or comes off completely the gun won't cycle right and that never happens at a convenient time.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grimm100 13 Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Why not just drill, tap and secure with machine screw/red loctite? Little more work but, not all that difficult. Dinzag sells the whole kit...drill bit, tap and all. I would prefer a mechanical attachment over a chemical bond any day. Unless its a tooth filling ahhaha, Echo we must have been typing at the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Not going to say that it wouldn't work, but imagine two small pieces of metal joined together with a bit of JB Weld, then tap one piece from the side with a mallot several thousand times - such is the environment the bullet guide is in. Not sure if that JB Weld would hold up under those conditions. Actually I'm surprised that someone hasn't made some sort of jig that would fit under the trunnion, between the receiver and trunnion, to support a rivet so that the bullet guide could be riveted in without removing the trunnion. Edited January 10, 2012 by mancat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
finishman2000 2 Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 drill and tap it and be done with it. it's a 5 minute job and $5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) I can think of worse ideas. Hitting your penis with a hammer, for instance. Seriously, install a proper guide. Glue has no place in there. Edited January 11, 2012 by BobAsh 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Remember...its puff,puff, pass. Using JB weld on a bullet guide isn't the best method to secure it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 it might work, but dosn't your gun deserve better? Don't you deserve better? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Try it. Report back with results. I suspect it will fail, but it would be helpful to know how long it can go before it does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Star 38 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 see, that's the thing... If a whole boatload of people popped up and chorused 'It works fine! I put it on toast!', then i would have given it a go. I will just put in the proper BG. Nailbomb, you are right sir. my rifle deserves the best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jack.s 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 anyone use JB weld to secure their bullet guide? No.. and I don't intend to try, but I have fixed an insane amount of things with JB Weld. I think it would work. If it was for a range toy, a gun you'd never be depending on to defend yourself or do any serious work with then I'd try it just for the hell of it. I'd bet it works fine and you never have a problem. If it was a gun I planned on counting on.. I'd never feel 100% about it though. Well.. not for a few years anyway ; ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gasper44 3 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 LOL. Really poor idea. Weld it in, or make threads and secure hardware with loctite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Porklops 5 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 put it on toast lol...... yeah drill and tap for sure! did my first one at work in about 10 minutes and didnt even break the damn infernal tap...... that time...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Not the professional way to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Kenny 144 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Hey, I've used JB Weld on firearms before! ... on the inside of the feed lips of a milsurp magazine, to smooth out the nasty pitting that was causing rounds to nosedive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 JB weld, duct-tape, and chewing gum should only be part a back-up plan "B", not plan "A". I wouldn't rule out using it for certain "non-critical" areas on a gun though. IMHO I did know someone who mounted a heavy fire-extenguisher to a metal "I" beam with aircraft-grade epoxy and it's still there. Epoxy is used extensively in aerospace, but they don't use it in place of screws or rivets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WI_Dave 26 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I have used jb weld for 2 things (non gun), the one that was under a load broke immediately the one patching a hole worked perfectly. I wouldn't try it personally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sickness 89 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 anyone use JB weld to secure their bullet guide? It would take longer for the epoxy to set than it would to drill/tap/loctite. Why bother? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnNicholasM 7 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'm surprised someone hasnt brought up double-stick tape to hold the bullet guide in. Some of that 3-M double-sided emblem tape used for autos should do the trick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grimm100 13 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) How about chewed bubble gum? This is getting too funny. Edited January 24, 2012 by grimm100 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Star 38 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 i have settled on boogers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wpflgun 3 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Well, I did JB Weld my first bullet guide, but only to test it for function, with the intention of drilling and tapping, securing with a screw. I was surprised at how well it worked, went through a full range workout with it, still solid. I had the hole already drilled in the guide, and only needed to drill the hole through the receiver, tap and install screw. So there is no doubt it will work, I proved that. The question is how long it would hold up without cracking or coming loose. That being the case, I would not use as a permanent fix. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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