Zombiehunter762 376 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 How much are factory new S-12 Izzy 8rd mags worth these days? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I would say $150 give or take, are you selling one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zombiehunter762 376 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Maybe if the price is right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Ill give you $25.00. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Ill give you $25.00. Hell, I'll give $27.50... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Ha ha.. you guys are hilarious. Shit, I've got 3, lewie212 and Caged, how many do you have? What's that.. 0? They're the most solidly constructed and reliable S-12 mags on the market, (as are all factory S-12 mags), and imo no mag looks sexier in the gun than a rock'n'lock 8... MF, as always, they're worth whatever the market can bear, but never less than ~$120. They sell for around that even over in Europe, where artificial rarity is not an issue, as it is here, (thanks ATF cocksuckers). Edited April 30, 2012 by post-apocalyptic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Once again, I don't feel the need to show how large my penis is by buying a $1500 S-12 or by buying one 8 round mag for the price of 4 10 round mags. You may spend your money as frivolously as you like, I prefer to actually get what I'm paying for. Let me know when they drop down below $50, but I probably won't even buy them at THAT price. I've seen what Izhmash does with firearms, I don't need any of their mags... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Once again, I don't feel the need to show how large my penis is by buying a $1500 S-12 or by buying one 8 round mag for the price of 4 10 round mags. You may spend your money as frivolously as you like, I prefer to actually get what I'm paying for... I paid a lot less for my S-12, (and all the work done to her thus far), than you might think. Leaving that aside, I can only assume you're talking about 10-rnd US-made S-12 mags. Yeah, I used to think they were worth a shit, too. They usually work fine at the range, right? Of course, that's a piss-poor way to evaluate a mag's overall reliability. Izzy mags have steel-reinforced feed lips, locking lugs, and mag spines. Name a single US-made mag that you can say the same about. It'd be convenient if it didn't matter, but it fuckin does. ...Let me know when they drop down below $50, but I probably won't even buy them at THAT price. I've seen what Izhmash does with firearms, I don't need any of their mags... You're further exposing your ignorance here.. either that, or being deliberately vague and misleading. Some Saiga-12s may have their issues, documented all over this forum, but in almost all cases, those minor issues are easy to fix with hand-tools, due to their underlying solid and durable construction. Their rifles are that much better performing, right out of the box. E.g. I consider my Izhmash Legion Saiga SGL 7.62x39 rifles to be the equal of, if not superior to, any other AK carbine available on the market, stamped or milled. If you owned one yourself, you'd agree. I paid ~$505 apiece for em. Edited April 30, 2012 by post-apocalyptic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Agree to disagree. You attack me, I attack back. Have I ever had experience with one? No, does that make me ignorant? Yes, but as long as they cost more than $50 I have no need for them. Look at it this way, that leaves more for you. And you can look down your nose at us "peons" who use American made mags with no problems what-so-ever... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Ha ha.. you guys are hilarious. Shit, I've got 3, lewie212 and Caged, how many do you have? What's that.. 0? They're the most solidly constructed and reliable S-12 mags on the market, (as are all factory S-12 mags), and imo no mag looks sexier in the gun than a rock'n'lock 8... MF, as always, they're worth whatever the market can bear, but never less than ~$120. They sell for around that even over in Europe, where artificial rarity is not an issue, as it is here, (thanks ATF cocksuckers). I love how you just assume people dont own something.You just like to stir shit up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 If MD came out with a single stack mag built to the reiliability of their drum, i wouldnt own 6 Izzy 8's. But since there is no such magazine, i settle! LOL. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Ha ha.. you guys are hilarious. Shit, I've got 3, lewie212 and Caged, how many do you have? What's that.. 0? They're the most solidly constructed and reliable S-12 mags on the market, (as are all factory S-12 mags), and imo no mag looks sexier in the gun than a rock'n'lock 8... MF, as always, they're worth whatever the market can bear, but never less than ~$120. They sell for around that even over in Europe, where artificial rarity is not an issue, as it is here, (thanks ATF cocksuckers). I love how you just assume people dont own something.You just like to stir shit up. Hmm.. that might be an Izzy 8 in your avatar. If you own one, I assumed you would recognize what they're objectively worth. You're right that I do like to stir shit up, hell that's the beauty of this forum over most of the gun forums out there... the main reason I lub forum.saiga-12.com so much. However, I try to only stir the shit when objective truth is on my side, as I believe it is in this case. If MD came out with a single stack mag built to the reiliability of their drum, i wouldnt own 6 Izzy 8's. But since there is no such magazine, i settle! LOL. Well said, Mullet Man! That's my approach to "the problem", as well. Edited April 30, 2012 by post-apocalyptic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Agree to disagree. You attack me, I attack back. Have I ever had experience with one? No, does that make me ignorant? Yes, but as long as they cost more than $50 I have no need for them. Look at it this way, that leaves more for you. And you can look down your nose at us "peons" who use American made mags with no problems what-so-ever... I completely understand your point-of-view. Hell, I was there myself ~2 yrs ago. But at some point you'll realize that mag reliability is of paramount importance and recognize that, in the current market, only Izhmash stick mags offer said reliability, however overpriced they may be. Edited April 30, 2012 by post-apocalyptic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 As long as people can only debate the cost and not the quality then I'm happy. Sometimes there is no substitute for having the very best. Every one of us has pissed away the cost difference of these mags many times over, and on much less important things. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I sold mine for $150 a piece recently, both of my S12s have magwells now As far as them not being worth that, it's up to the individual. To me, they're worth the asking price. For the most part, American made mags make me cringe. I like authenticity. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Ha ha.. you guys are hilarious. Shit, I've got 3, lewie212 and Caged, how many do you have? What's that.. 0? They're the most solidly constructed and reliable S-12 mags on the market, (as are all factory S-12 mags), and imo no mag looks sexier in the gun than a rock'n'lock 8... MF, as always, they're worth whatever the market can bear, but never less than ~$120. They sell for around that even over in Europe, where artificial rarity is not an issue, as it is here, (thanks ATF cocksuckers). I love how you just assume people dont own something.You just like to stir shit up. Hmm.. that might be an Izzy 8 in your avatar. If you own one, I assumed you would recognize what they're objectively worth. You're right that I do like to stir shit up, hell that's the beauty of this forum over most of the gun forums out there... the main reason I lub forum.saiga-12.com so much. However, I try to only stir the shit when objective truth is on my side, as I believe it is in this case. If MD came out with a single stack mag built to the reiliability of their drum, i wouldnt own 6 Izzy 8's. But since there is no such magazine, i settle! LOL. Well said, Mullet Man! That's my approach to "the problem", as well. I know what they are worth. The $25 offer was a little thing called sarcasm. I am well aware of the quality of izzy 8s. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I think when CSSpecs gets around to making steel mags for the S12, the demand will drop for the factory 8 rounders, they are cool looking though. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Ha ha.. you guys are hilarious. Shit, I've got 3, lewie212 and Caged, how many do you have? What's that.. 0? They're the most solidly constructed and reliable S-12 mags on the market, (as are all factory S-12 mags), and imo no mag looks sexier in the gun than a rock'n'lock 8... MF, as always, they're worth whatever the market can bear, but never less than ~$120. They sell for around that even over in Europe, where artificial rarity is not an issue, as it is here, (thanks ATF cocksuckers). I love how you just assume people dont own something.You just like to stir shit up. Hmm.. that might be an Izzy 8 in your avatar. If you own one, I assumed you would recognize what they're objectively worth. You're right that I do like to stir shit up, hell that's the beauty of this forum over most of the gun forums out there... the main reason I lub forum.saiga-12.com so much. However, I try to only stir the shit when objective truth is on my side, as I believe it is in this case. If MD came out with a single stack mag built to the reiliability of their drum, i wouldnt own 6 Izzy 8's. But since there is no such magazine, i settle! LOL. Well said, Mullet Man! That's my approach to "the problem", as well. I know what they are worth. The $25 offer was a little thing called sarcasm. I am well aware of the quality of izzy 8s. Ok. Is that an Izzy 8 in your avatar? I think when CSSpecs gets around to making steel mags for the S12, the demand will drop for the factory 8 rounders.. Perhaps. It depends completely on price and performance. I'd prefer that a US manufacturer emulated the construction of the Izzy 8's; polymer where they can be for lighter weight, but the strength of steel where it really counts. ...they are cool looking though. Indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Hell, I forgot to mention the MD double stacks, I am guessing those will be built like a brick shit house, just like the drum! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Hell, I forgot to mention the MD double stacks, I am guessing those will be built like a brick shit house, just like the drum! I suspect the same.. but it won't matter if they're never mass-produced and offered on the open market. We were "teased" ~2 1/2 yrs ago regarding these. Please, start selling them Mike D!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Relax. He's still spending big money on the project, that means he will follow through. I recently attended a lecture on patent trolls, and statistically banks could predict which patents would be produced and which would make money. Investors looked at the same data too, and can make very reliable predictions. Basically, do they spend money up front to get the patent, and are they still spending money on the patent 3 years later. If the answer is yes then you can expect the product will go to market. MD just sold $30k+ of mingun parts to finance development. That doesn't sound like idle teasing to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zombiehunter762 376 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I have waited, worked and paid for everything I own. I can wait for the double stack mag, especially when the MD20 runs like a bat out of hell. I was just curious to see what the market price is on the factory 8rd mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramlake 98 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I would be willing to trade a new Izmash 8 rd magwell mag for a rock and lock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JRSUDS 18 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Disregard. Edited May 1, 2012 by JRSUDS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zombiehunter762 376 Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) WHAT ARE FACTORY 5rd. Mags worth? Edited May 1, 2012 by MFWIC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
montec 164 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 WHAT ARE FACTORY 5rd. Mags worth? I'm not sure by my keepshooting Taiwan mags work just like the original in mine. and I paid less then $8 each for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 WHAT ARE FACTORY 5rd. Mags worth? R&R was getting $75 shipped for 3 of them with a factory AK cleaning kit. Theres a huge thread in the the WTS section. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 The Russian 8-round mag is quite simply the best mag ever made for the Saiga-12. I doubted it too until I handled one. $150? Worth it. I've got a stack of AGPs to play with at the range. They usually work, but for protecting my home its only 8 and 5 round mags for me. Really wish Keepshooting.com would make a copy of the 8 rounder, cause their 5 rounders are just as reliable as OEM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
montec 164 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 The Russian 8-round mag is quite simply the best mag ever made for the Saiga-12. I doubted it too until I handled one. $150? Worth it. I've got a stack of AGPs to play with at the range. They usually work, but for protecting my home its only 8 and 5 round mags for me. Really wish Keepshooting.com would make a copy of the 8 rounder, cause their 5 rounders are just as reliable as OEM. Yeah if keepshooting made an 8, I'd be happy till the double stacks came out. Now if only MD made a 25rd drum that would have been more Ideal to me then a 20rd drum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 If you are seriously interested in selling, I will make you a serious offer. Let me know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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