shootsmuch 9 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 http://articles.cnn.com/2012-07-22/us/us_colorado-shooting-investigation_1_source-with-direct-knowledge-open-fire-new-batman-movie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supertex 242 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 40 round glock magazine ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alexc.s. 25 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Wasn't even a glock... http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2012/07/25/new-york-times-glock-40-1911/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I would have figured the staking on the gas key on the shrubmaster would have failed before the mag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 "obama flies to colorado" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supertex 242 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Wasn't even a glock... http://www.everydayn...-glock-40-1911/ 40 round 1911 magazine ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 And the one I am sure a lot of you have seen: 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redfish28 50 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Yeah because AK's never, I mean never jam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theorangeplanet 968 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) I would have figured the staking on the gas key on the shrubmaster would have failed before the mag Sounds like the mag failed, not the rifle. There's a picture of the rifle outside the theater with a 30 rounder in it. Edited July 26, 2012 by Risky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Only one conclusion can be drawn from this. High capacity drums are less of a threat because they are more likely to jam and will lead to the shooter ending his killing spree sooner and being captured unarmed and without resistance. Had he used multiple 10, 20, or 30 rounds mags more people including police could have died. It's time for the Brady Bunch to start extolling the virtues of the high capacity drum to reduce the number gun deaths. 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Wasn't even a glock... http://www.everydayn...-glock-40-1911/ Wrongo! That's an early model steel Glock produced before the Australians started making them out of carbonated fiber to render them invisible to airport x-ray machines and scentless to sniffer dogs. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I heard a .40 caliber Glock AK-47 with barrel shroud and silencer. It also created teenage un-wed parents and when shot backwards you could hear the voice of satan. Thats our Massachusetts media for you, though. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 ...so much bullshit. The court case is supposedly now sealed. I bet he walks. I've never heard of a crime like this where the guy just gave up. Or where the police didn't shoot the fucker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 He won't walk. Too much public outcry. He will likely be committed to a mental facility for a long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Beta mags suck ass. We only used them on aggressor weapons during exercises. Good thing the shooter was an amateur and didn't have his manual of arms retained to muscle memory. Things could have been a lot worse. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2ndAmendican 23 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Wasn't even a glock... http://www.everydayn...-glock-40-1911/ Wrongo! That's an early model steel Glock produced before the Australians started making them out of carbonated fiber to render them invisible to airport x-ray machines and scentless to sniffer dogs. Or like in Die Hard 2, Bruce Willis says "they have porcelan Glocks" when someone asks how the bad guys got guns through security and the metal detectors. I'd laugh at the absurdity if it wasn't such a serious blow to our 2nd Amendment Rights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nlacy 692 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 It was a horrible tragity, but I was thinking thank God he didn't use a Ryder Truck full of fertalizer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ktcm7271 999 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I hate to even comment on this, but my wife said to me "nearly 70 people were hit and 12 are dead, what do you think he used?" I told her at that range, it had to be an AR-15. The heavy AK-47 rounds would have killed more. I'm not going to argue rounds and guns here, just posting a reply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I hate to even comment on this, but my wife said to me "nearly 70 people were hit and 12 are dead, what do you think he used?" I told her at that range, it had to be an AR-15. The heavy AK-47 rounds would have killed more. I'm not going to argue rounds and guns here, just posting a reply. Very true, at those close ranges, a lot more people wouldn't have come out of that theater alive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salmonking 149 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Look, getting shot sucks whatever way you slice it, and getting shot with a .223 vs a 7.62x39 at close range isn't going to be that different depending on where shot placement is. A shot in the foot or arm is probably not going to kill anyone. The whole advantage of the .223 at closer ranges is the fragmentation- never again will I call it a poodle shooter once I looked at the pics below. They are a bit graphic. http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=84194&hilit=look+like+a+poodle&fb_source=message What makes me laugh more than anything is that after the shooting happens with the wacko packing an AR-15, people still talk about how dangerous these AK-47s are. 'Man arrested for street racing Ferrari on I-95.' The public's response? "Lamborghini's are too fast and only race car drivers should own them!" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Look, getting shot sucks whatever way you slice it, and getting shot with a .223 vs a 7.62x39 at close range isn't going to be that different depending on where shot placement is. A shot in the foot or arm is probably not going to kill anyone. The whole advantage of the .223 at closer ranges is the fragmentation- never again will I call it a poodle shooter once I looked at the pics below. They are a bit graphic. That was M193 which fragments easier than M855 . M855 is heavier, has a tungsten penetrator, and will go through multiple targets at that range. They have not disclosed what ammo he was using as far as I know. He may have shot a shitload of 55 gr stuff or fewer M855 rounds and achieved the same results. Who knows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) I hate to even comment on this, but my wife said to me "nearly 70 people were hit and 12 are dead, what do you think he used?" I told her at that range, it had to be an AR-15. The heavy AK-47 rounds would have killed more. I'm not going to argue rounds and guns here, just posting a reply. From everything I've heard, it sounds like the majorty of casualties were from the Remington 870. 12-gauge buckshot at a 25-yd distance would spread enough to pepper several people at a time with .33-cal shot with each shot fired. If I was in the situation, I would WANT the shooter to have a rifle or pistol. 12-ga buckshot inside a theater? Get the fuck down, you are going to get hit. Firing a pistol or rifle inside this environment does not guarantee many hits. Edited July 28, 2012 by mancat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ben4345 123 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I hate to even comment on this, but my wife said to me "nearly 70 people were hit and 12 are dead, what do you think he used?" I told her at that range, it had to be an AR-15. The heavy AK-47 rounds would have killed more. I'm not going to argue rounds and guns here, just posting a reply. From everything I've heard, it sounds like the majorty of casualties were from the Remington 870. 12-gauge buckshot at a 25-yd distance would spread enough to pepper several people at a time with .33-cal shot with each shot fired. If I was in the situation, I would WANT the shooter to have a rifle or pistol. 12-ga buckshot inside a theater? Get the fuck down, you are going to get hit. Firing a pistol or rifle inside this environment does not guarantee many hits. Fuck you my cat avatar is way better than yours!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I heard your cat has herpes. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ben4345 123 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I heard your cat has herpes. That is because your cat raped my cat, and caught it from yours. And your pussy stinks like bad syphilis! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclejake 428 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 One thing about Betamags is that they HAVE to be lubed liberally with graphite to run properly! I have one of the less expensive S Korean ones that has YET to fail. Using Wolf ammo,and graphite, it has been filled several times and as fast as I can pull the trigger on my Saiga .223, it rocks! Course, I don't need for the press to hear this! I am just thankful that more people didn;t get hurt and hate that someone wasn't packing with a laser and able to get a headshot off on him. Seems like everytime a liberal is up for re-election for the president, one of these shootings happens. Can anyone say "Manchurian Canidate"? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I hate to even comment on this, but my wife said to me "nearly 70 people were hit and 12 are dead, what do you think he used?" I told her at that range, it had to be an AR-15. The heavy AK-47 rounds would have killed more. I'm not going to argue rounds and guns here, just posting a reply. From everything I've heard, it sounds like the majorty of casualties were from the Remington 870. 12-gauge buckshot at a 25-yd distance would spread enough to pepper several people at a time with .33-cal shot with each shot fired. If I was in the situation, I would WANT the shooter to have a rifle or pistol. 12-ga buckshot inside a theater? Get the fuck down, you are going to get hit. Firing a pistol or rifle inside this environment does not guarantee many hits. Buckshot doesn't make a magical cone of death at 25 yards... http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot20.htm read this please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 also this one http://le.atk.com/pdf/Shotshell_Data_Book.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I heard your cat has herpes. I love cat fights! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Buckshot doesn't make a magical cone of death at 25 yards... Nope, but it is sure easier to aquire a target and hit it with a shotty wearing a Promask, not so much with the peep sights on an AR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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