yakdung 2,926 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 We can only hope: http://www.examiner.com/article/sensenbrenner-working-on-bill-to-dissolve-atf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termite 463 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 When pigs fly. Ain't no way in hell they will EVER get rid of them, if anything, they'll make them larger, ya know, to keep us even safer. But there again, we can all wish, maybe there really is a Santa Claus. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 When pigs fly. Ain't no way in hell they will EVER get rid of them, if anything, they'll make them larger, ya know, to keep us even safer. But there again, we can all wish, maybe there really is a Santa Claus. Exactly what I was thinking.. Roll them up with DHS and make them even worse... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 They should have never been started to begin with. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Like the song says: Dream On 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neinLG 7 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 One of my favorite talk radio hosts has a saying. Only one thing in this life is eternal and that is a government program. I wish him lots of luck but won't be surprised when he fails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big John! 2,062 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Don't our elected have better things to do than fuck around with some primary vote getting bull shit? Why do I have to pay for the gangsta in chief to fly around and raise money for other people? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) " merging the embattled agency into other federal law enforcement entities" ...so they can continue their virtually unchecked assault on the Rights of the American people, with the added power and resources available to them by the new bureau. ...and they're BATFE. They HATE not being a 3 letter agency. Edited July 13, 2014 by patriot 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nlacy 692 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 yeah, not going to happen. Even if it did get absorbed into another agency, it would not make our lives any easier. What they need is an overhaul of the system. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 yeah, not going to happen. Even if it did get absorbed into another agency, it would not make our lives any easier. What they need is an overhaul of the system. What they NEED is abolished 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Hmmmph..... There's way to much money to be made from guns, booze, and smokes for them to go ahead with this. To think otherwise may be a cranium filler malfunction. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Nothing good will come of this... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) As long as we're fantasizing, every federal "department" and "bureau" and "administration" should be abolished, except one. Each and every one was put in place as a tool for control of the states and the people. The founding fathers underestimated the determination of humans to become tyrants. The Constitution should have required every federal law to have a 2/3 majority vote in both houses so that a "majority" of 1 asshole couldn't ram the federal dick up our ass. Edited July 13, 2014 by Darth Saigus 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 We have a family friend that's a Secret Service Armorer, he's felt ATF has been out of control for years and he's very vocal about it. That should speak volumes.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) If this politician was serious, what he should do is just sit back and await the opportunity to sneak in many good amendments to a bunch of lousy Democratic Party bills. Sneaky good amendments that do good and not evil. The first thing is language to do away with the Hughes amendment from back in about 1986 or so prohibiting by law any more new automatic weapons being transfered to law abiding folks like us. That is one. Another good idea is a sneaky good last minute amendment prohibiting the President from, by executive odor, banning any firearms or ammo from import, including old production surplus foreign automatic weapons. Be very nice if we could buy a never issued and never used, 40 year old Russian AK47 along with some mags, accessories and a dozen cases of good Russian AK ammo for about $1000 bucks or so--with a NFA tax stamp. HB of CJ (old coot) Edited July 14, 2014 by HB of CJ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Nemo 882 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 In a way he's right. The taxation and stamp authority should be IRS, the criminal/investigative division should be FBI, and arrest authority should be US Marshals. In fact, ALL arrest athority should be given to Secret Service, US Marshals, and Customs/Border Patrol. The rest of the alphabets should have to use them to make arrests. That would cut down on the SWAT and regulatory abuses. If they can't get the Marshals to agree to the arrest, it doesn't get made! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 In a way he's right. The taxation and stamp authority should be IRS, the criminal/investigative division should be FBI, and arrest authority should be US Marshals. In fact, ALL arrest athority should be given to Secret Service, US Marshals, and Customs/Border Patrol. The rest of the alphabets should have to use them to make arrests. That would cut down on the SWAT and regulatory abuses. If they can't get the Marshals to agree to the arrest, it doesn't get made! And then some one will cry that what idiot thought to make X amount of agenciey but only Y amount have arrest powers. Now those who can are being stretched thin. Yea it sure would cut down SWAT.......wait what? How so? Like those 3 dont have their own SWAT or CERT teams. Oh and going from arrest to arrest to arrest because now they are the only ones with that power will mean that most likely they will be going as SWAT only. If they are going to be doing some one elses dirty work you can bet they'll be prepared for the worst. 2 out of 3 of your agencies are DHS (secret service & Border patrol) The Marshals arnt going to sit around reviewing cases and taking votes on who gets arrested. They'll opperate the same way. Warrant issued, arrest made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 nice dream, but that's all it really is; a nice dream. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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