elvis christ 451 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/10/armed_activists_walked_through.html#incart_most-read_news_article Click link for hilarious pictures and video. Dozens of people walked through the streets of Birmingham's Kingston community Sunday- several of them openly carrying long guns – following last week's shooting of a 28-year-old man during a confrontation with police. Today's rally was not a protest, said Avee-Ashanti Shabazz and Mercutio Southall, co-founders of Birmingham's Black Lives Matter Also-Birmingham, but an effort to educate the residents of their gun rights and their human rights. "The residents have a right to their humanity, the right not to be terrorized by police,'' Shabazz said. Shabazz' second-cousin, Courtney Gadsden, was shot by Birmingham police Oct. 13. Birmingham police spokesman Lt. Sean Edwards two officers stopped a suspicious vehicle near the intersection of Kingston Avenue and 47th Street just after 8 p.m. He said as the officers approached the vehicle they gave commands to the motorist, but he didn't comply. The driver got out and continued to refuse compliance, Edwards said. One of the officers deployed his stun gun. It is not yet clear if the stun gun struck him. At that point, the second officer saw the man was holding a weapon and fired on him, Edwards said. The gun was recovered at the scene. Edwards said "several shots" were fired. None of them were fired by the suspect. The State Bureau of Investigation is investigating the shooting. The two officers, whose names haven't been released, were placed on leave, which is standard procedure for all officer-involved shootings. Gadsden remains hospitalized at UAB Hospital. His family says he was shot five times, has a bullet lodged in his spine and is paralyzed from the waist down. His mother, Charlotte Gadsden, was at today's rally. She said she didn't find out her son was shot until 20 hours after it happened, while she was on her way to her second job. She said she went to the hospital but initially wasn't allowed to see him. She said she doesn't know many of the circumstances of the shooting. "I'm not asking him what happened, I'm just being a mom,'' she said. "I just want justice for my son, and every other black man in America." Shabazz said he doesn't know all of the details surround the shooting of his cousin, who is a convicted felon and has served time in prison, according to court records. Shabazz said he, too, wasn't at liberty to discuss what few details he knows about his cousin's shooting but said he believes there is more to the story. "Courtney's no angel, but that doesn't justify him being gunned down,'' he said. Several dozen people gathered at the site of the shooting at noon Sunday. "We're done with protests,'' Southall said. "This is about empowering the people." Shabazz said the culture that exists in Kingston and elsewhere is one of "heavy-handed and overzealous" policing. "The white community doesn't understand the harassment and violation of rights that happens here,'' he said. "They harass us constantly because they think a bunch of black people can't get together without drama,'' said 47-year-old Kingston resident Anthony Robinson. "We ain't got no rights around here. It shouldn't be that way." Shabazz said many residents don't know their rights, so when police approach them, they run for fear of being arrested, or worse, and that's when trouble happens. "It's to the officers' benefit that these people know their rights,'' Shabazz said. The group – men, women and children- walked through neighborhoods for nearly two hours Sunday, speaking with residents and handing out copies of their constitutional rights. The crowd grew as they walked, but the rally remained peaceful. Several Birmingham police officers followed along on the route, but stayed a block or two behind. The officers said as long as it remained peaceful and lawful, they didn't plan to disrupt the rally in any way. Organizers said there will be more rallies to come. "They need to know their gun rights, as well as their human rights so as to protect themselves, their community and law enforcement,'' Shabazz said. Edited October 19, 2015 by elvis christ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Well that'll help bunches Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Well Momma, just maybe if your precious little felon would obey commands and not draw a firearm on the police, he wouldn't get shot. No pity party here, cold facts of life. Whenever I see pics of wanna-be black militants, I always feel better afterwards. I know that I've more firearms laying around out of the safe, than they seem to have combined. And I'm willing to bet that barring prior military service, I'm better trained with my guns than they're. Edited October 20, 2015 by ChileRelleno 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'm honestly on the fence about this one. I support everyone's right to defend themselves, yes, even some felons, and I think it's better for the 2nd amendment as a whole if more people understand its root meaning. And I think they try to divide everyone and say 'only redneck whites who hate coloreds are into the 2A, so if you see it, you know what it is.' So its good for them to understand it, on a totally localized stage. On the other hand, I know what it is: a drawmn up capaign, under the guise of an ethic equality, by some socialists who are running plays from old commie handbooks. And we're buying it, as a whole. I'm honestly on the fence about this one. I support everyone's right to defend themselves, yes, even some felons, and I think it's better for the 2nd amendment as a whole if more people understand its root meaning. And I think they try to divide everyone and say 'only redneck whites who hate coloreds are into the 2A, so if you see it, you know what it is.' So its good for them to understand it, on a totally localized stage. On the other hand, I know what it is: a drawmn up capaign, under the guise of an ethic equality group, by some socialists who are running plays from old commie handbooks. And we're buying it, as a whole. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Shabazz said many residents don't know their rights, so when police approach them, they run for fear of being arrested, or worse, and that's when trouble happens. "It's to the officers' benefit that these people know their rights,'' Shabazz said. The group – men, women and children- walked through neighborhoods for nearly two hours Sunday, speaking with residents and handing out copies of their constitutional rights. The crowd grew as they walked, but the rally remained peaceful. Several Birmingham police officers followed along on the route, but stayed a block or two behind.The officers said as long as it remained peaceful and lawful, they didn't plan to disrupt the rally in any way. Well I don't have a problem with people knowing their rights. I have no problem with people assembling peacefully. And looks like the Police are ok with it as well. Open carrying of long guns is legal in AL correct? If so I again don't see a problem. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 days ago BLM threatened (bullets for white people) Nation of islam called for the murder of whites recently as well Burning cities because police were forced to use deadly force against criminal thugs, coupled with threats....does not endear me to blacks in general 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 That group is comical. They would get their ass handed to them in short order in a confrontation with a decent special response team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Or a bunch of dudes in tree stands. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) As we say here, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I grew up around the Montgomery area, and have seen many Darwin award winners over the years. Edited October 20, 2015 by Lone Eagle 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreaker 1,085 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 With that many guns on the street, just a matter of time til an accidental or negligent discharge happens and it goes to hell. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Shot 1,287 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 With that many guns on the street, just a matter of time til an accidental or negligent discharge happens and it goes to hell. My first thought as well. This ain't gonna end well. More "proof" the American public can't be trusted with firearms. These dipshits pose a bigger threat than Fine-swine ever did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
getitat 609 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hello So they "need to understand their Constitutional rights" in defying the police with guns? With friends like that,........ -Guido in TX 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Shabazz... Hmmmmmmmmmmm New Black Panthers anyone? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't see what any of this has to do with guns. They were open carrying, so what. All I see is a bunch of protesters. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scattergun10 125 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 What exactly is this supposed to be accomplishing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 you've got people living in poverty in what in their minds is a virtual welfare and police state, where at some point in their lives most on the men have been in jail now people are telling them to stand up for their rights and do a show of force and power while this is not my 1st choice of events I'd support at least it was pro gun by someone other than what the public is starting believe is just some mass murder committing whites. other than the Native Americans these people have suffered more at the hands of the government than most of us, they haven't understood that handout is not a hand up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Don't give me any bullshit, its the Why & How they want people to carry & use those guns. I'm all for their Constitutional Rights and protecting themselves from tyranny and their own people. They've more to fear from each other than any other group/race on the planet. But these are wolves in sheep's clothing. Why: The BLM crowd has their panties in a wad over thugs being killed/wounded. They're not being terrorized or targeted by the police, the police aren't going through the ghetto systematically beating,imprisoning and killing innocent black children/people. The facts are their demographic commits more crime/violent crime and thus has more confrontations with LE than any other in the US. Their attitudes and social skills are generally piss poor and things go down hill very quickly, just look how they tried to 'Talk' with the Mayor of Los Angeles, and in a church no less. How: The BLM group advocates violence against the police and white people. They want to arm more blacks and encourage them to use those guns against police and whites. They want more blacks with more guns, with a even worse and hostile attitude, and what you have then is a powder keg. They are trying hard to stick a fuse in it and light it. The whole BLM Movement is based on lies, racial hate and bigotry, and it is by far theirs. The people pulling the strings don't want peace & harmony, they want blood and anarchy. Take those its only a Protest and they're just asserting their 2A Rights comments and stick that where the sun don't shine. If you believe that shit, well, I've a bridge for sale... Cheap. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Spot on precise evaluation Chili ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Thank you Chile for saying what I had to bite my tongue not to. These people aren't victims of the government. They have the government in place that they vote for every cycle. If they are not smart enough to understand that the policies they vote for are designed to keep them in poverty, then that is their fault and not society's. To be clear, when I say "they" I do not mean black people, I mean people of any race that would say life is unfair and since I don't have a chance, why even bother. This is a large portion of the inner city black population, but it also a growing sector of middle class privileged white youth who have never worked for anything, sacrificed for anything, or contributed to anything. I am sick and tired of hearing how people aren't responsible or accountable for their actions. I don't give a crap where you have come from, what life circumstances you have endured, or how hard things have been. YOU are are responsible for the decisions you make. No one else is! BLM in Birmingham are thugs, attention whores, or just plain ignorant people who place skin color ahead of self respect and bettering themselves and their children's children. Guess I should have bitten my tongue. Edited October 21, 2015 by Spacehog 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I like to think of how many people saw baltimore burning and started questioning if the police are capable of ensuring everyone's safety in an event like that. I'd like to think a few people took steps to ensure that they would not be victims. The carrying of arms does one thing. It holds attendees of the protests to a higher standard. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) guess I didn't write my thoughts very clear (alcohol a great late evening drink but a poor editor of writing) for one I don't in general support the actions of either BLM the older Bureau of Land Management or later black lives matter movement. I wouldn't have supported a German lives matter movement in the 1930s or an Arab lives thing today either. I was pointing out the choice of a gun as a symbol of power was new to the dialog, I found it refreshing that they at least understood the 2nd amendment matters with the problem being they take the stand that "Whitey" and the police (these type movements always have to have someone to blame and hate) are the source of their oppression not their own crimes or use of drugs along with a system of support by the same government that both pays them a pittance to stay poor and locks them up for doing what is the normal in their neighborhood not trying to rise above it with education and work. Free your mind Edited October 21, 2015 by the 4th Doctor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I can't but wonder if/when a pack of firecrackers is going to go off in or near one of these marches, and all hell breaks loose. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
getitat 609 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hello "PRODUCTIVE LIVES MATTER" -Guido in TX 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Aint life in the end times grand? Every painful step, every insane act, every idiotic response is just another step to ending this cancer. So I just watch and sometimes have to remind myself this is all necessary much the same as chemo. But I aint gotta like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I can't but wonder if/when a pack of firecrackers is going to go off in or near one of these marches, and all hell breaks loose. Who's going to do it? It sure would fix the problem...at least at that moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 as long as people are this stupid, nothing is going to get better http://patriotvideos.net/scary-video-shows-how-many-people-support-a-whte-privilege-tax/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 as long as people are this stupid, nothing is going to get better http://patriotvideos.net/scary-video-shows-how-many-people-support-a-whte-privilege-tax/ Islam does much the same thing. A tax on "infidels". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Mark 2,452 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) All I've got to say is keep pokin'. Sooner or later the hard working, law abiding people of this country are going to poke back. Edited October 22, 2015 by DaveM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Or the rattle snake in the corner, keep messing with the snake, yall know what comes next. As well as wakening a sleeping bear, he is OK till you wake him up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreaker 1,085 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." Admiral Yamamoto 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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